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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3364 |
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Since I won't be buying a new boat, the changes would have made buying something uncompetitive less attractive.
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zeon ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 316 |
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With me , it’s the exact opposite. The thought of a solo without a coffee table, with carbon boon and 3kg less weight sounded a very good place to spend my retirement money . Oh well its probably for the best . At least I can retain some self respect lol
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3364 |
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I think it's a sensible move. From a purely selfish POV introducing the changes would have made me less likely to consider a Solo in the future.
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zeon ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 316 |
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Oh well that’s a shame but not surprising. Changes will only be proposed and passed when sales of new boats slows .
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ian.r.mcdonald ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440 |
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The Association have just published an update. None of the proposed changes will be put to a vote and the Solo will continue in its existing popular form.
I think our builders phones will be busy on Monday with enquiries about orders! I disagreed with the proposals, but well done the Committee in giving up their time to work for the class. |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3364 |
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For me the 7.5 RB was the ideal compromise between power and manageability, suitable for older or less fit club sailors and ladies. Beyond that brute force started to become an issue*. Being from a dinghy sailing background I always enjoyed the finesse element at least as much as the HiHo part. FW with it's 12m sails (which prompted the move to 9.5m Raceboard sails) totally killed it for me, I didn't do many nationals but, after the demise of the 7.5 class it became a contest of how long you could pump a big scil for (then FW and it's min wind speed totally buggered it for us normal racers), I completely lost interest.
*IMHO, the UKWA should have replaced the UL class with the International 9.5 class and retain the 7.5 class, many more grass roots sailors had invested in 7.5 kit and, at club and regional level in the NW it is still the most (only) active RB rig.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6491 |
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In div2 times I'd always back volume over weight, better 290 litres at 18 kilos than say 260 lites at 16 kilos because predominantly it was displacement sailing. There must be some sort of equation for this stuff by now at naval architect school. As to pumping, I could always out pump most all thetime the sail size was manageable, 6.3 in div 2, 7.5 raceboard even 8.5 at a push, but once it went to 9.5sq mtr and as is the case now 9.8, the heavyweights pretty much took over. I guess the extra size brought the threshold for being powered up further down the wind scale. Lots of folk used to think that the 8.5 the Solo boasts was more of a heavier sailors rig, which I guess back when we were sailing 6.3 and 7.5 maybe it was, but it felt relatively easier to me compared to say the Solution or the EPS, being a lighter person and more susceptible to sail size with the rigs being as fixed as they are in Solo's without the benefit of a carbon mast and half decent depower methods. Edited by iGRF - 16 Oct 19 at 9:41pm |
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giraffe ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 148 |
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If you want your class to be successful it needs to steadily be building boats. There needs to be a trickle down of kit, boatbuilders will always strive to build a better product. Rules need to move with the time. In a class like a solo it should be slow and steady. Sails wear out and need replacing. Hulls become less stiff, although in recent years this is less of an issue. To sell boats there needs to be an incentive for people to want to buy boats. The risk is that if there is no development investment goes into ever increasing spend on control systems. I don’t get the carbon rig, the carbon boom can be made at home so I think that is a good idea. I would probably reduce weight over a period of time. You cannot ignore the Aero which is changing the game.
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1758 |
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Crew weight will at least be normally in the right place on the boat whereas boat is normally distributed in the wrong places, unless of course it's correctors.
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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I think the board weight effect in planing boards is amplified, because nearly all the sailor weight is dynamic weight that can serve to increase power through pumping, ooching etc. I know that I could tell by feel, the difference of @1 kg (which was the difference in weight between two versions of a Mistral Electron that I tested before buying the lighter one).
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