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L123456
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Topic: Social Media and Rule 69 Posted: 08 Aug 19 at 9:57pm |
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I think it’s poor that people would sound off against the organisers on social media.
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Aug 19 at 11:07pm | ||
Doesn't make them not kids though. OA's have a right to try to make events 'family friendly'. Think of the little children.
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Brass
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Brass
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sargesail
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 19 at 6:31am | ||
I saw some frustration towards an IJ last week because they are both jury and judge and higher court. That's what you sign up for when you enter an international event. International event = Elite level of competition = Elite understanding of norms and processes = elite levels of self control. And perhaps suggests a need for elite levels of empathy? I think this can be really hard for competitors and they need to be able to ‘vent’. Iabsolutely disagree with. I can abide a competitor using foul language expletives in the heat of the moment (OK, in ordinary conversation), but in writing, or, indeed, deliberate speech, where the message conveyed goes beyond mere expletives, it's different. So I’m with you in that I’d like that to be the way it is. But I also recognise that for habituated young social media users there is no filtering action as they enter text. It is as the spoken word is to you and I. So the issue needs some empathy. I see no reason why the incivility of 8Chan or Sailing Anarchy should be carried over into sailing. Then I'm not too unhappy about a bit more rule 69 penalising. Seems to me that much of SAs incivility is grumpy old men not unconstrained yoof - let’s not conflate the two. |
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sargesail
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 19 at 6:48am | ||
I wouldn’t use it at all. My kids might. My daughter probably wouldn’t.....but having read this decision I know she’d enjoy imagining saying it to her brother if she was in a similar position to the NZL sailor when training.
Would she enjoy having it said to her? The question is - would she consider it foul, abusive or a breach of good manners....i’ll ask? ]I'm not really sure that enjoyment is a relevant consideration. Precisely - in terms of enjoying I was referring to thinking it with a little smile when he upsets her. And that’s the point - I read an earlier thread on language in which an Irish poster noted that the F word is more a verbal fill in than a swear word in Ireland. So here with ‘suck my balls’. Here's the go. In MY opinion this crosses a line. So here’s my question: if a competitor uses a gesture or expression that is not abusive or a breach of good manners s in his culture but is in another (a simple thumbs up is an example) and a report is made to the PC/IJ how shouls it be dealt with? Presumably the gesturer would need to have known for it to be an infringement. Or merely should have known? Back to youth culture....I think this has some relevance to the case in question. |
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sargesail
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 19 at 6:50am | ||
Re spoken versus written comms....I’ve 3 times touched the dictation button while writing these posts....there isn’t even a mechanical filter!
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sargesail
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 19 at 6:54am | ||
I wasn’t referring to the weather stuff actually. Let’s just say that the committee boats wind instruments need some recalibration! |
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Fatboi
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 19 at 8:25am | ||
I would say so, especially if you have over 30,000 followers on the page! Criticizing the PRO, race instruments is pretty poor show. |
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 19 at 8:56am | ||
Sargesail,
Is that really the way we want the game to go? Basketball trash-talking, Cricket sledging, Football, coaches and star players ripping into referees in the media every time they lose a match?
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