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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jul 19 at 6:26am
Going to Solo Nations Cup next week; the format is slightly more relaxed than the Solo Nationals ... less intense and more of a sailing holiday in a nice place.  To me the choice of venue of an event is paramount to whether I go.  Shall also be doing Salcombe Yacht Club Regatta, of which I have had continual attendance since 1972!
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Still quite a split in favour of championships. I wonder how many of those are just weekend nationals? Is that format keeping their popularity over regatta weeks? 

I still really value a week long championship. I feel it needs to be more than the regular open meeting two days. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Steve411 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jul 19 at 9:10am
Originally posted by mozzy

Still quite a split in favour of championships. I wonder how many of those are just weekend nationals? Is that format keeping their popularity over regatta weeks? 

I still really value a week long championship. I feel it needs to be more than the regular open meeting two days. 
I agree. 4 days at least. Even 3 days seems a bit short to me. You've just got into it and it's almost over.
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I've been digging into this topic for a while now and the Championship 'scene' - for want of a better term, is slowly being  a bit clearer, though I'd be guarded about saying that it is now understood.  It seems that the class stalwarts, fan boys, call them what you like will always attend. Then the potential hopefuls, who have aspirations to get 'something' out of attending will be there. It looks like these two groups will enter and turn up, irrespective of location and weather. What is far harder is to determine the behaviour of the middle - here location, dates, weather....plus other 'soft' factors will all play their part and can go a long way to determining if there's a bumper or lean year.
Regatta Weeks are far more straight forward - like the retail trade, location, location and... location, then dates - plus again the soft factors - a group may well decide en masse to do a certain event and what a hoot that can be. 
Good luck though to anyone who thinks that they have the answers to this - a championships can be fun, a regatta week can have hot, almost intense competition.....maybe both are enjoying subtle changes in their offering that just reflect the changing nature of how (and what) we sail!
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I have done Streaker Nats, daughter doing Optimist Nats. My daughter is moving to Toppers, and I would like to do something family friendly with camping where Toppers sailed the same races as me in the Streaker. Was thinking of doing Bass but we have recently moved from the North to the South, anyone recommend something similar to Bass but Hampshire way. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jul 19 at 11:38am
I have fallen out of love of championships because of the tendency for shorter races often 45 minutes, exclusively windward leeward courses and leeward finish lines.  Which in my opinion does not make for a joyful experience with more than 50 competitors in a fleet.

Our regatta week races have a 90 minute target time, and the courses provide a sense of destination.

For the moment I prefer regatta racing, but I will continue to do the odd championship if I like the venue.
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I however prefer the 45 min race not much changes after that time period and I would prefer more races to a few less but longer ones. 

I also like WW/LW, reaches are boring and very little place changes happen they just spread the fleet out.

I do however like it when you have some upwind and some downwind finishes. I think its great if there is a beat home to finish at the top marks on the last race.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jul 19 at 11:57am
Originally posted by tink

anyone recommend something similar to Bass but Hampshire way. 
Well... obviously FED week! No camping on site though. 

Also Chichester YC Dinghy Week up the harbour. 

Going along to Devon and Cornwall there are quite a few week long town regattas. St Mawes, Fowey, Camel, Salcombe. 
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One race a day, 1:15-1:30 hr long, with a finish at a line nearer the shore (or windward so at least you never have a full beat back in) is a very efficient way of running racing, leaving lots of time at the bar or beach. 

but, i think the fleet has to be a decent size and standard to support races of that length otherwise it can dissipate a little after 30-45 minutes. 

waiting on shore for hours of postponement, an hour sail out to the championship course, then three races complete with two general recalls for each, with bit of waiting around for marks to be shifted, then back ashore by 6pm... a couple of those days at a championship and it becomes less appealing as a holiday and certainly sucks the fun out of the evening
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dougaldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jul 19 at 12:48pm
Mozzy - you got that one right - and then some! Worse still is an early afloat, then a wait out around the Committee Boat until the early afternoon, general recalls, the race abandoned when the wind shifts on the first beat, more delays while the course is relaid…. a shambolic race, then more waiting around until late in the day the call is finally made to give up trying to get a second race in. A long sail back in sh*te wind and drizzle and by the time you're back, packed away and in the bar, you really do wonder what the **** it is all about! As said before, there's no 'f in' fun!
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