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    Posted: 08 Dec 19 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by 423zero

Not many working people could afford these boats, (perhaps Doctors and Barristers ?), (the big talk about affordability and inclusion total bull). Probably excluding majority of Worlds countries too.
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Originally posted by JimC

Like it or not boats with lids are a big part of the sport worldwide. And Its hard to argue against the proposition that at the moment it gets far more in the way of spectators and people following than inshore racing does. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. A longer race might be even better, but comes with the risk it will turn into a procession half way through.


I would love to know when (in the UK) these boats with lids actually sail. All I ever see are increasing large marinas with ever more inactive boats. I am sure they may do the odd big race or occasion week but actual participation I am suspicious about. 

Heavily sponsored big boats (mono and multi) are very skewed representation of the sport. If was in the market for a suit I’d go to Next and buy a new sail rather than a Hugo Boss. 
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The justification for dropping Star was affordability.
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The Star is relatively expensive, the world has moved on in 108 years, there are plenty on suitable one design keelboats without lids


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Certainly ratings for the six hour tv programme as the finishers straggle over the line are not going to be great
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Originally posted by ian.r.mcdonald

Certainly ratings for the six hour tv programme as the finishers straggle over the line are not going to be great
More interesting than a two day race, at least with 6 hours it can be scheduled in a days racing. This is like trying to turn climbing Mount Everest into an Olympic sport by racing up Ben Nevis. 
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I meant that the TV will just totally ignore the race 30 mins after the start, and then stumble around a very long process of the finish.

But I like your mountain race example

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Originally posted by ian.r.mcdonald

I meant that the TV will just totally ignore the race 30 mins after the start, and then stumble around a very long process of the finish.

But I like your mountain race example

Yeah that sounds about right, no mater what they with graphics it isn’t going to be gripping close boat on boat. With the advent of TV sailing haven’t races got shorter? 

People do keep up to date with long cricket matches by checking in every now and then, I expect the boats will have trackers you could look at every hour, Cricket does have real people watching in a stadium mind. 
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Originally posted by davidyacht

Two person offshore in a Star Boat would be interesting and appease the Star Boat lobby 

It has been tried (singlehanded)
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Originally posted by tink

I would love to know when (in the UK) these boats with lids actually sail. All I ever see are increasing large marinas with ever more inactive boats. I am sure they may do the odd big race or occasion week but actual participation I am suspicious about.

Big boats with lids sail all over the place, Holyhead Yacht Club is not a large Solent based club but they get half a dozen or more 30'+ boats out on a weekend or summer Wednesday night. I'd guess the same happens in the North West/North Wales, Caernarfon, Abersoch, Barmouth, Liverpool, Fleetwood and many other places around the country. Some dinghy clubs can't get that many out in a single fleet.
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