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As I said on t'other thread the Laser standard sail measures considerably more than 7m as that is the simple triangle area ignoring the luff, leech and foot rounds which may add as much as another square metre or more.
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Originally posted by mozzy

I remember in a FB/Insta post just after the trials RS seemed a little disgruntled that other boats had changed set ups slightly despite instruction from WS to bring the boats as they were being sailed.

Possibly frustrating as RS brought the 7 and 9 as they were, possibly despite already having the 6 in the pipeline and knowing it was probably better suited to the women's singe hander. 

Did the Laser change anything?
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Originally posted by CT249

Originally posted by mozzy

I remember in a FB/Insta post just after the trials RS seemed a little disgruntled that other boats had changed set ups slightly despite instruction from WS to bring the boats as they were being sailed.

Possibly frustrating as RS brought the 7 and 9 as they were, possibly despite already having the 6 in the pipeline and knowing it was probably better suited to the women's singe hander. 

Did the Laser change anything?

No it was the d-zero which had deck extenders and a different sail
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Post Options Post Options   Quote CT249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 19 at 10:54am
Thanks.

Still puzzled about the D Zero's ranking, given the applause it has here and the way it looks. On the other hand, it would not be the first boat to over-do the fine bow idea.
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Originally posted by CT249

Thanks.

Still puzzled about the D Zero's ranking, given the applause it has here and the way it looks. On the other hand, it would not be the first boat to over-do the fine bow idea.
I think the part of the report that the D-zero being too technical because it has mast rake chock and different traveler systems so distracting from the athleticism speaks volumes of the direction they want the sport to go. Also I donít think the D-zero or the M14 are really set up for global one design quality production. 
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I guess the 49er, the 470, the Nacra all have loads of moving parts, maybe they want one without?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Daniel Holman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 19 at 8:03pm
To my highly biased and partisan eye, and given other information coming from the trials from admittedly dubious sources, the report reads like a document compiled by people with a certain agenda, who want to appear as if they are going through an appropriate process. Plenty for me doesn't add up to what I have heard from sailors who have sailed 3 of the 4 boats on trial, and sounds like justification for statements was based on heresay rather than fact or experience.
That said I think that WS have let themselves down by keeping the laser regardless of who the pretender is.  I think too much was made of universality, as any of the pretenders is still a plug and play una singlehander, for which the laser could be a perfectly good trainer / feeder etc.

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Originally posted by tink

Originally posted by CT249

Thanks.

Still puzzled about the D Zero's ranking, given the applause it has here and the way it looks. On the other hand, it would not be the first boat to over-do the fine bow idea.
I think the part of the report that the D-zero being too technical because it has mast rake chock and different traveler systems so distracting from the athleticism speaks volumes of the direction they want the sport to go. Also I donít think the D-zero or the M14 are really set up for global one design quality production. 


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Peaky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 19 at 6:58am
Makes you wonder if the Laser without the XD kit would have scored even better: having a usable kicker and outhaul must be very confusing for Olympic wannabes.
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Originally posted by rich96

- it just looks wrong compared to the numerous classes who have the boom clamped to the deck (Europe, Laser, D Zero, Finn, OK, Contender, Phantom even)

Interesting isn't it, how what we're used to conditions what we think looks right. On most of those classes the droopy boom is an artifact of a one design sail and bend or rake way in excess of designer's intentions. Aerodynamically it's a nonsense.
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