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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Apart from the CST top section, is this for all practical purposes little more than smoke and mirrors and more about the sailor having the best head rather than the best boat.
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It’s about some chancer trying to justify asking over £4k for a secondhand Laser.
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 783 |
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The fact that in a one design class it is possible to ‘select’ a boat for anything other colour is quite simply wrong.
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Lasers are built using fairly low tech methods. Therefore they will vary a bit. It's possible to measure the variations to greater accuracy than the build tolerances. That's true of any manufactured product. Unless you're prepared to have a very low production yeild. Which class has less variation than the Laser? I'm sure 'measured' classes have a more tightly controlled weight, but what about the weight distribution? I would expect if any other SMOD got olympic status, people would be all over it finding the variations an choosing the best gear, particularl in boat with no user rig adjustments. |
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Particularly one whch has seen a lot of Portland. For that money, I'd want one which has pottered around some mirror smooth pond and never been stressed or fatigued.
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 783 |
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As an Engineer I am well versed in the practicalities and economics of manufacturing and tolerance. The issue is that what is implied here is he went to the builders inserted a mast and measured rake and fully examined the hull for fairness and now considers that the norm that it the top selling point of the boat.
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The RS Aero 4.6.1 Standardization of equipment - Page 18 4.6.2 Quality of production - Page 19 ![]() ![]() |
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rich96 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 20 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 596 |
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This is nothing new - years ago people checked the rake, weight and also verticality/alignment of both the centreboard/rudder The reason why the rake is so much more important on a Laser than, say, an Aero, is because the Laser is sailed block to block upwind and the leech tension is therefore limited (the Aero has higher boom and the D Zero has an adjustable deck ring) So a boat hand picked with the correct rake is certainly a good starting point. Is £4k a lot for a well set up and successful 213K Laser ? |
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So the idea that the Laser was a better choice than the Aero because it is more inclusive was flawed because in reality the richer countries could buy/ select better Lasers (I presume / hope however that they get given random boats for the actual Olympics) Sad
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It would be a simple mod to have mast rake as a measurement in the class rules and simple shims bonded in during final quality check so was a truly one design boat. Yes if you do the same for all the other variables cost with go North.
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