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JimC
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Topic: ILCA drop LPE as a builder Posted: 07 May 19 at 11:55am |
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But they cannot sell International Lasers. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 19 at 12:15pm | |
Very true. At least until they form a class association and get international status. What a mess! |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 19 at 1:42pm | |
And by the same token PSA/PSJ cannnot sell an international 'Laser' in Europe/North America (or any other territory where they do not have an agreement to use the TM. I believe even doing a private import of a new boat is jumped on by LP/the TM holder as well. There was a dutch dealer who was doing this, LP found out and they folded before it got to court. PSA tried importing containers of 'lightly used' Lasers a few years back as well, that also got jumped on to the TM holder was protecting their rights. Its just a right mess, caused by the class losing control of the TM back in the early days. How this will play out is anyones guess but I know there are going to be a fair few lawyers getting a Christmas bonus over it. This is why ILCA are seeking to create a new TM they can use and have control of and license to builders as they see fit. They are damned whatever they do though. As for LP, dont they already have 'LaserPerformanceUntied' as their own defacto CA which they would need to go through the relevant steps to get affiliated with WS and so forth.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 19 at 3:09pm | |
I'm not sure the class ever owned the trademark. As I understood (if I did) the mesh of contracts when I looked into it a few years ago owning the trademark was the builder's chief protection of their investment. They could invest money in class promotion etc knowing that they couldn't get arbitarily chucked. Other aspects of the contracts were intended to ensure that if a builder did walk away they had to leave the Laser building game completely, but all that has disappeared into US legal hell. Also some of the protections in that disappeared when ILCA changed the fundamental rule to no longer require a builder to be licensed by Kirby.
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 19 at 3:22pm | |
Quite possibly. does make you wonder what Kirby was actually selling when he sold his rights to Global Sailing.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 19 at 3:43pm | |
Whatever it was it made him a few quid
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 May 19 at 3:16pm | |
Now the Spanish have also written asking for ILCA execs to resign if they have broken constitution rule 17. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 19 at 10:41pm | |
There's nothing wrong with the associations referring to facts that are not in dispute and calling for ILCA's council to resign because of alleged breaches of the class constitution. That is very, very different from relying on one side's allegations to state as a fact that ILCA has been engaged in conduct that could well be criminal.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Jun 19 at 4:45pm | |
Laser legend Robert Scheidt is also now calling for the ILCA leadership to resignation. He has shared a petition on his FB page.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 19 at 6:27pm | |
First line one this advert interesting for a one design class
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