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Haven't the Russians and GDR being doing that to their gymnasts forever?
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If memory serves me right, I think the Men's weight is heavier. I was hoping for actual figures. It seems the perfect weight isn't an absolute but rotates around the weight where you aren't too penalised in the light or heavy - in other words, near the average.

But yes, given we can't have 6 weight categories, I suppose being near the average weight of the world population of female athletes would make sense. Anyone know what that weight actually is?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Riv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Mar 19 at 7:07pm
Womens centre of gravity is lower in general terms than mens. This would imply that to attain the same righting moment women would have to be heavier.

However for female athletes trining for Laser may build up more muscle mass than average and so the centre of gravity issue may not be relevant.
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Are the ideal weights for Men and women in the radial the same?

I have a feeling the whole subject is much more complex than being made out by the article. I'd take bets that if the Aero 5 was put up for selection and won, we would have complaints about how women were having to diet to compete, and how unhealthy it is.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Riv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Mar 19 at 11:29am
Hopefully the convergence of weights will allow nations with  smaller weight and height profiles to compete effectively.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 19 at 8:43pm
That article seems to suggest that small variations between boats and the weight they will carry, rather than lobbying, will decide which boat will be chosen. TBH, given that whatever boat is chosen, weights will converge and so sailor weight gained or lost, lobbying is a good a way, if not better, to choose the boat.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Riv Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 19 at 7:52pm
From what I can gather WS think that the Laser as it currently is does not cover the appropriate weight ranges for men and women, meaning that it disadvantages some countries/ethnic groups 

From latest descriptions on SA it seems that the Devoti is favoured because it is more tuneable than the others as it has adjustable mast rake

They intend that the Laser stays on as the feeder for what ever boat is chosen, the skills being fully transferable as non of the new boats are radically different from the Laser.

So, given the mission to widen sailing's appeal this sounds perfectly reasonable. 
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Hmm I still think it would not be good for the sport as a whole if the Laser were dropped. I think a fair compromise would be to open the rig up to other makers, make it completely open but with tight measurements, I'm sure that would bring prices down and it would keep the boat truly international. Heavier sailors could be catered for with a larger measurement than present, even based on the '0ne square metre = 10 kilos rule of thumb' a 9 mtr sail could bring the optimum sailor weight up to 90 kgs which face it is about as heavy as any serious athelete would want to be. ;-)

More local sailmakers could vie for the 'prize' and the boat would continue to be produced in numbers big enough to keep the econpmic trickle down for new club members in the future.

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