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JohnJack
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Topic: 2019 RYA PYs Posted: 08 Mar 19 at 10:21am |
There must be enough data submitted from clubs of all types to be able to give a big lake/small lake/coastal PY now, rather than than just overall.
Working in Data Science I would love to get my hands on the PY Data. It would be awesome!!
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craiggo
Really should get out more Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 19 at 10:27am |
JohnJack, why not contact the PYAG and get yourself involved.
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Silverlode
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 19 at 11:08am |
Interesting. Tenby is pretty open water with waves when it is windy but the Lasers can't touch the Ospreys in most conditions. Of course that might just be down to crew skill.
We haven't adjusted away from the RYA figures yet but I would be interested to know how the figure of 1078 for the Laser was arrived at - by my reckoning the "official" Laser PY hasn't been that low since 2009. Was the winner of your series using a carbon topmast? If so perhaps it should be treated as a separate class rather than adjusting the yardstick of the lasers with the original rig. |
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KazRob
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 19 at 12:23pm |
Silverlode - That's just the different characteristics of the boats. Hiking singlehanders generally hit top upwind speed before being overpowered whereas something like a trapeze boat planing upwind just gets faster and faster. I think the sweet spot for the Laser is around a F3 where they are really quick to pop onto the plane and accelerate while other boats are not yet planing.
While a single number isn't perfect it is workable and we all have to accept that some boats are harder to sail to PY than others and all boats will have sweet spot for course, wind, sea etc
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 19 at 12:34pm |
It was the first year I really got involved in dinghy racing and started to pay attention to such things 2004 was it? Ospreys? Can anyone catch them on 944 is it? They are a bit of a Bandito as I recall, racing them in the Alto off 912 and they've been lipsticked, so it doesn't surprise me they'd beat Lasers on open water, just like the Hornet another bandit. Edited by iGRF - 08 Mar 19 at 1:27pm |
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Do Different
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 19 at 1:01pm |
Keep up iGRF; Ospreys have been knocked down since 944, without checking I think now 928.
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 19 at 1:32pm |
Not watching them now, not on my radar since I sold the Alto, which interestingly I hear has also upped a few points which basically proves my point back then, the Osprey/Alto relationship was well out of scew. I'm now living in a relatively PY free world, there are four Solutions to race against and Lasers of course and on the sea I have yet to sail the Farr to what I would call it's handicap whatever that will eventually end up at anyway, so i can't really be that PY sensitive. It is such a shame though that such a potentially wonderful resource that could be so positive for the sport is in the hands of people so unenlightened. |
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MerlinMags
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 19 at 3:13pm |
Download the new PY lists from the links in the box on the right here:
www.rya.org.uk/racing/Pages/portsmouthyardstick.aspx |
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zeon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 19 at 8:36am |
I am always amazed how well the py system works .
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PeterG
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 09 Mar 19 at 8:57am |
+1
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Peter
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