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Jamie600
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Topic: Quick release harnesses mandatory Posted: 31 Aug 21 at 11:52am |
I realise this is an old thread but aware the Jan 2023 deadline is getting closer but the market still doesn't seem ready.
Does anyone have any insight on whether there are any harnesses on sale that will comply with the new ruling? Still can't quite see how this will work in practice, is everyone from occasional club sailor to Olympian really expected to replace their harnesses by that date or risk DSQ? |
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NickA
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Aug 21 at 1:03pm |
I got myself that new T3 ...It is a very good harness; very supportive and comfortable and extremely solidly made. However, "release in seconds" my rear end. You'd have to be Charles Atlas and Houdini combined to get that velcro to release by pulling the little yellow tabs - especially whilst under water wrapped up in ropes. However, if it meets the letter of this silly law, that is fine with me. The sizing is mad btw, a "large" to match my "large" zhik wettie would fit Giant Haystacks - had to send it back and exchange for an S&M (S-M in fact, but S&M seems to suit something with straps and hooks on it). Still no "ISO Compliant" harnesses on the market; I think the manufacturers are expecting a change to the standard or another delay or abandonment of it.
Edited by NickA - 31 Aug 21 at 1:24pm |
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Jamie600
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Aug 21 at 1:33pm |
Yes agreed! Thanks - yes I did wonder if the manufacturers were just hoping this would all go away I was hoping to treat myself to a comfier harness but not at the risk of it being redundant in 16 months. The boy needs one as well... |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Aug 21 at 5:48pm |
I have an old Gill harness with a QR hook, will try releasing it under tension sometime. It's probably not ISO *@$%!^ complaint but I doubt they'll ask where I occasionally race the Spice. That will go to the crew now as, last year, I found a used (but barely) Allen Keyball system harness cheap for me, slightly disappointed it falls out of the socket when I stand up (I wouldn't have binned the DK if my harness had one) but otherwise it seems pretty fool proof and certainly minimises things to get snagged.
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Neptune
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 21 at 12:47am |
You realise class rules can add an exemption to this change; I think many classes are discussing this and perhaps one for your 600 AGM soon Jamie.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 21 at 4:30am |
Gosh, I think a class or club would have to be very very brave to have an exemption for alleged safety equipment, no matter how useless it appeared to be. A Nelsonian eye might be safer.
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Neptune
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 21 at 7:30am |
Depends upon whether you think the unintended release is perhaps a bigger potential risk than entrapment (which in the classes I have sailed is very rare).
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Jamie600
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 21 at 9:34am |
Not sure on this one Mark, accidental release is similar in effect to a broken trapeze line. Unfortunately, from experience, I know this results in landing in the water behind the boat as it carries on briefly before capsizing, no harm done.
Jim's point is, if a class opts out of this rule and an entrapment death does occur, the blame would inevitably fall on the class for taking that decision Edited by Jamie600 - 01 Sep 21 at 9:35am |
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Neptune
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 21 at 9:37am |
I didn’t disagree with Jim, but I think a few classes may not switch until the technology becomes reliable as thankfully entrapment is very rare. It’s also open for a class to leave the choice completely up to the sailor, you don’t have to mandate one or the other.
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Jamie600
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Sep 21 at 11:13am |
Sorry didn't realise that, so yes that would solve the issue at opens etc, but for club sailing I assume normal racing rules would apply? Like how RS's are allowed to hit marks at their own events, but if I sail my RS in a club handicap race I'm not allowed to hit them |
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