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Originally posted by EmmyC

I was attracted to it as it's composite rather than wooden

That's arguably the worst of both worlds. Pre foam sandwich GRP is without any doubt the worst material to build a Solo from, that's why wood boats kept on being popular for so long, and wood decks mean you stil have to maintain, keep out of the frost etc.

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JimC is quite right. If you would consider a GRP boat with a wooden deck, why not an all wood boat? There are three advertised currently on the Solo Association website and at least one of them has been epoxied from new. They are less than half the price of FRP boats and will be competitive for club sailing if the rig is right for you.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Late starter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Feb 19 at 8:44pm
I've not sailed a Solo for a long time so I'm not up to date with developments in the class, but I sailed a GRP/composite boat for a season probably 10 or so years back. I found this very slow, and a pal of mine who also had a similar boat at the same time was also very slow. We were sailing against some of our pals who had modern FRP ships, and the difference in speed was very marked. And these were guys who I'd sailed against for years in Lasers, Phantoms etc and we'd been broadly similar in ability. JimC and Nick are right, if I wanted an inexpensive Solo I'd buy a wooden boat from a decent builder with the right rig.
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Around the lake, you won't find a lot of difference between a recent wood boat and a from one.
Look for a well setup Boon/Gosling. O viously, it should be sound and as down to weight as possible (mine carries 3kg of lead).
Check the mast for your weight (Solo website), and that the sail matches the mast bend!

Also, the mast rake makes a significant difference.
You may want to look for continuous control lines as well

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On our reservoir I saw about a 5% improvement in performance when someone upgraded from a good modern wooden boat to foam sandwich. I was staggered, I never would have anticipated such a big differential.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote KazRob Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 19 at 12:25pm
Originally posted by JimC

On our reservoir I saw about a 5% improvement in performance when someone upgraded from a good modern wooden boat to foam sandwich. I was staggered, I never would have anticipated such a big differential.

That is a huge difference! At the extremes of that difference that's either the new boats being as fast as a Laser (1148 -> 1090 for -5%) or the old ones as slow as a Laser 4.7 (1148->1205 for +5%). Must be something like Godwin's law where all online sailing threads end up on PY eventually :-)
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Not quite true about the performance. The guy who was 11th at the nationals last year sailed a composite boat that is probably 10-12 years old. He had an old wavelength rig and edge sail. Not what you would consider top gear but with 3 results in the top 10 you cannot say it held back too much! 

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I suspect someone buying a new or recent FRP boat will probably sail more frequently, concentrate harder and likely spend some time practicing so part (most?) of his improved performance will come from that.
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Originally posted by Fatboi

Not quite true about the performance. The guy who was 11th at the nationals last year sailed a composite boat that is probably 10-12 years old. He had an old wavelength rig and edge sail. Not what you would consider top gear but with 3 results in the top 10 you cannot say it held back too much! 


The first wave of FRP boats is around that age now. They came as composites as well as there is one at my local club. It still can't keep pace with the current generation though.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rich96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Feb 19 at 6:18pm
Surely there cannot be a 5% difference in actual boat speed

Far more likely that a tiny percentage (1% ?) multiplies itself as you get left behind, in dirty air etc etc

5% boat speed would indeed be a different class of dinghy altogether
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