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Assuming they want carbon masts.
Small designers and builders couldn't get their products to market without the help of their customers, H2 for instance, without purchasers driving their new class forward it would crash and burn, or would you just prefer the likes of RS and Laser, Topper etc to build and market there latest offerings ?
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I would prefer a standardisation of things like rigs and rig parts with the uniformity driving down the cost of ownership.

So, what is the cost of an H2 mast for instance? How much does the excess of that cost increase the price of the boat for the builder/supplier?
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Imagine we could have our own rig which we could switch from boat to boat?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zeon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jan 19 at 10:41pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Imagine we could have our own rig which we could switch from boat to boat?

Even for you, this is serious trolling  LOL LOL LOL
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I have a Mirror, Minisail and Enterprise would be a good system
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Chris 249 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jan 19 at 11:07pm
Originally posted by iGRF

Imagine we could have our own rig which we could switch from boat to boat?

That would work.

IF the boats all had the same form stability, the same apparent wind angles and speeds, the same wave penetration characteristics, the same righting moment, the same wetted surface, the same structural layout, the same shroud base width, the same forestay angle, the same mast step layout, the same planing characteristics, the same cockpit layout and associated fittings layout, etc. In which case, the boats would be so similar you don't need two of them.

Yes, of course you could switch rigs around if you were willing to compromise. But that would require someone who was not hyper-critical of almost all things to do with dinghies.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jan 19 at 9:34am
Originally posted by iGRF

I would prefer a standardisation of things like rigs and rig parts with the uniformity driving down the cost of ownership.

You mean, like a SMOD? 

Or a class approved supplier like the Firefly?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GybeFunny Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jan 19 at 10:57am
Originally posted by iGRF

Imagine we could have our own rig which we could switch from boat to boat?

And maybe we could elimnate the need for a rudder on these boats by standing up and supporting the rig ourselves and moving it about to steer? Oh wait........
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jan 19 at 2:26pm
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Originally posted by iGRF

Imagine we could have our own rig which we could switch from boat to boat?

Even for you, this is serious trolling  LOL LOL LOL


Which it was tbh, but, it's not as daft a suggestion as it sounds, for example, take the D0 rig which is a superb set up, based as it was on Dans steampunk boat which was another lovely rig, now stick that on a Supersofa, or a Solution, in fact you could stick it on pretty much any single hander around 4 mtrs length included the ubiquitous Laser, wether you chose to stay it or not it would do the job of providing what rigs do, the engine that powers us along.

The point to all this is the fewer the options, the more the numbers, the more the numbers the cheaper stuff becomes, so if we all (mono rig s/h sailors) standardised around a given mast.......
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Gordon 1430 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jan 19 at 3:59pm
Biggest problem would be the supernova, solo and stayed are stayed rigs. where as a lot of single handers are unstayed.
A 60mm rig for a solution or supernova would be far to heavy compared with the current CST, Super Spar or Selden which are more like 45mm.
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