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Cirrus
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Topic: So.. Laserati, shall we talk C5? Posted: 03 Jan 19 at 3:47pm |
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There is no monopoly in SMOD kit surely - not when there is plenty of SMOD choices to be made plus any number of non-SMODs alternatives available. Don't like a particular list of SMOD kit prices ? Please please vote with your feet then .... Oh what you really want is 'having your cake and eating it' ? .. Well now we've all heard that one somewhere else ....was it not that blond haired politician aand his new friends going on about something similar - I can't quite remember the details .... but with about as much chance of getting it as well !! ....
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jan 19 at 4:04pm | |
It's a choice we all make, I choose to sail a Blaze because the boat suits me, it being an SMOD did not influence my decision either way
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jan 19 at 4:26pm | |
I currently own 3 boats where the sail choice is fixed, and 2 where it is not. It didn't rank in my buying decisions at all. Luckily for me, Ian Morgan has made me very reasonably priced sails for the 2 open classes, Minisail and Puffin. My Banks Lightning sail is SM, but with a choice of cloths, and is fairly new. The Firefly really needs new rags, but costs have gone a bit high there for the use she gets, and the Topper sail is OK for club racing and a blast around, and may be sold soon anyway.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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zippyRN
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jan 19 at 1:44am | |
although that does depend on how the class runs things ... choice of approved makers vs you cvan buy from anyone and if it measures it's in |
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Chris 249
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Great post.
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Chris 249
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jan 19 at 3:12am | |
Nope, it's not a better arrangement for those of us who don't want it. Put it this way; would it be "a better arrangement" if the Solo class became a development class? It may be a faster boat, but I'd bet that most Solo sailors would not find that "a better arrangement" because they chose the Solo as it is because they are reasonably intelligent people who find that it suits their situation and taste. They don't want someone making their hull obsolete next week. They may not want an"us and them" situation in which buying new kit gives a few sailors a significant advantage. They don't want the possibility that the complete boat sitting in their shed may become useless at championships. It's the same with SMODs. We are not morons or brainwashed dupes. We choose SMODs because they are what we want. I don't, for instance, have any need for a new tuning guide for my SMODs because the kit hasn't changed so that is no advantage for me. I don't want anyone developing new sails because I sail several classes and like being able to store one or two classes for a year or two while I concentrate on a third class and then pull one of the stored boats out and get back into it, go to the same settings, and get back into racing without updating all the gear. How would it be better for me to have to go out and buy an OK, for example, and then spend thousands to ship it to the next worlds AND buy another boat to train on during the meantime? How is it better if I may spend all that money and time and find that another person has spent more money with a different sailmaker and found a better set of kit? Why is that "a better arrangement" than saving thousands of dollars by being able to charter kit at the worlds? To insult SMOD sailors by inferring that they don't know what is a "better arrangement" for their needs is silly.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jan 19 at 3:45am | |
On one way of thinking the more controlled multi vendor one designs have the worst of both worlds, since there's enough change to escalate costs and give a constant need to update gear, but not enough change to actually improve what the boats are like to sail in any meaningful way. All this proves though, is that every way of managing classes and class rules has pros and cons, and they are simply different, not better or worse. Edited by JimC - 04 Jan 19 at 3:47am |
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jan 19 at 8:36am | |
Each to our own?
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jan 19 at 10:19am | |
That about sums it up
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jan 19 at 11:04am | |
Classes and builders will only push the envelope so much, they have to think of their futures.
Get a group together at your club, say 6 and negotiate for sails etc.
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