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I do indeed have H1 still for sale.  Itís a perf ct boat for someone of a fuller figure but who is finding they are perhaps less nimble than they used to be.  It is a quick boat, especially in a blow where at 90kg Iím definitely Italy not heavy enough.  But I think the main advantage is that you never need to kneel.  The buoyancy down the centre line makes a perfect sitting place when itís light, unlike the phantom or the RS300.  Itís also very easy to right following capsize, another plus for those of us in our middle years.

Somehow I find myself also owning a Finn, a woodie deep cockpit phantom, an OK and a D one.  The full st of big person boats!  My favourite is the D one.  I am the right weight for it, it is a joy to sail and there is enough racing to match my free time.  My nextfavourite is the Finn but I am really too light for it, so it will most likely be for sale too.  I got use of the class demo OK for their Nationals this year and loved it so much I bought one with two rigs so I can use it for both cvrda racing and class racing.  This all means that poor H1 is a bit surplus to requirements.  That being said, Iím really only selling because I want to buy a better car.

If I can work out how to post a pic I will, but be.iece me, itís a pretty, pretty boat.  £3500 with a very decent combi trailer.
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Originally posted by winging it

I do indeed have H1 still for sale. †Itís a perf ct boat for someone of a fuller figure


OK.. speaking as the actual Fuller shape, which currently is 67 kgs of lean mean trapezing machine, anything else, is clinical obesity.. just saying.
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Thanks for all the replies - more to consider. H1 sounds interesting, though I'm working in Germany at moment and not back in UK till a few days before Xmas, so no immediate rush. 
More than a little annoying that I've got mates who are making most of some decent sailing weather on both board and boat and I can't.
I'll keep a watch on apolloduck and see if anything turns up there too. Theres always ebay too, but finding anything on in among hundreds of inflatable tenders...
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Ex (almost) windsurfer here.

The Blaze is probably not the best boat for you (though we all know iGRF still regrets selling his). It's not perfect, especially on a small lake and is optimised for stronger winds but I sail mine both inland and on the sea. With your budget, though, and sailing only inland, I would be leaning towards a Phantom (were I a little bigger, 5' 6" and 76kg doesn't hack it). Or Nessa's H1 looks beautiful if you want something a little different from the norm.
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Had a feeling that would be the case with the Blaze. The clubs board gps speed freaks (which isn't me..yet) don't take long to cover the length of it (linky). Which is why I was discounting asymmetric boats.

Winds have been poor for the board this year when I've had the time. Did take the clubs old Mistral IMCO board out a couple of times when it was light for giggles - the glide compared to a not-quite planing shortboard is quite addictive. There was some board course racing, well, around 3 of them, last year, as I've not seen them think they've just gone back to blasting.

Finn, Phantom, RS300 look to go OK in light stuff. I had told myself  'no wood' but that H1... Tongue. Even looks like a bit of the N12 I had in that hull.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 18 at 1:05pm
Blaze is a great boat, I love mine, but if I was only sailing light winds on a small lake I would almost certainly have something else. Our lake is around 1 mile long so the Blaze is not too confined but I race and it's still hard to sail it to it's PN on there.

H1 (and H2) definitely has some Merlin in it's DNA.
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Having sailed a Blaze on a small pond (50 acres or so of usable water) I can confirm they don't perform to their potential unless it is windy.

Nessas H1 is nice, I have sailed it on said small pond as well as a H2 (the only thing with those 2 boats is the central tank to step over, practice would sort that though).

My personal ride at the minute is a D-Zero though, I am over the 90kg mark these days and there are sailors in the fleet who are over 100kgs who are competitive in most conditions so perhaps another boat to consider?
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A 1980s/90s Finn with a carbon rig is the way to go.

Way more comfortable than a Phantom, better suited to your weight than an OK, D Zero, 300, Blaze etc(especially sailing inland).

Every Finn is slightly different and they are addictive. Totally refined after decades of development from the worlds best sailors.

It feels like a privilege to sail one.

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Looks like a cracking option to me - https://www.okdinghy.co.uk/classifieds/2062/

With Burt weighing in at almost 120kgs and being competitive I would say you fit well within the competitive weight band but if your not racing then that almost doesn't matter.
Loads of space for you in the deep cockpit it could work well for you. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Nov 18 at 11:27am
I've not sailed an OK, in fact I don't believe I've ever come across one in the flesh so to speak, but look at that link I couldn't help noticing the centreboard is well up front in the forward deck area and you sit aft in a cockpit, how does that work?
Everyone knows the optimum sailing position is just ahead of the centre of lateral resistance which on an OK would put you up on the deck, they must be really awkward to sail sat back there. Or am I missing something?

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