sailing a dayboat with centreplate up

   What are the pitfalls of sailing a dayboat with its centreplate up (i.e. stuck up) . The boat is an 18ft seafarer dayboat, which appears to have a stuck centreplate. The previous owner says it sails fine as has a fair amount of ballast. My understanding was that the centreplate should always be down when sailing and raised for beaching or recovery.
I don't want to sail away from the berth if the cetreplate is required, but if the performance and sailing ability is not impacted too much, would like to get some sailing in before end of year.

Thoughts?

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pij27 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 27 Jul 10 Location: Ryde / Tilbury Online Status: Offline Posts: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote pij27 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: sailing a dayboat with centreplate up Posted: 15 Oct 18 at 2:59pm
	What are the pitfalls of sailing a dayboat with its centreplate up (i.e. stuck up) . The boat is an 18ft seafarer dayboat, which appears to have a stuck centreplate. The previous owner says it sails fine as has a fair amount of ballast. My understanding was that the centreplate should always be down when sailing and raised for beaching or recovery. I don't want to sail away from the berth if the cetreplate is required, but if the performance and sailing ability is not impacted too much, would like to get some sailing in before end of year. Thoughts?

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6644	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 18 at 3:13pm
	It will go downwind and maybe even (depending on design) crosswind just fine. getting upwind may be another matter. It all depends on what there is underwater without the board. Have you got an outboard to get you back to base?

PeterG Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 818	Post Options Post Reply Quote PeterG Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 18 at 4:11pm
	Well, the previous owner is partly telling the truth if it also has internal ballast - it's unlikely to capsize on you except in v strong winds. However, if you want to sail to windward, then you are going to struggle. It needs fixing!
	Peter Ex Cont 707 Ex Laser 189635 DY 59

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3395	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 18 at 4:29pm
	Is the boat in the water? If not the pics of the hull should give is a few clues?
	Spice 346 "Flat Broke" Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"

pij27 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 27 Jul 10 Location: Ryde / Tilbury Online Status: Offline Posts: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote pij27 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 18 at 10:39am
	Here is a pic of a similar boat, same model.

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6644	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 18 at 11:02am
	Well, with a stub keel like that it ought to be capable enough crosswind and even make some ground upwind on what would really be a close reach. If I had to get home upwind against the tide in a narrow channel I think I'd need an outboard motor, or else anchor up and wait until the tide changed.

PeterG Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 818	Post Options Post Reply Quote PeterG Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 18 at 11:05am
	Right, so it has a small keel as well as a C/B, so yes it should be able to sail reasonably upwind - though it will certainly perform significantly better if you can get the centreboard to work. Do you know what the centreboard is made of? If it's heavy, cast iron, or similar, having it down will also improve the heeling stability, in addition to reducing upwind leeway.
	Peter Ex Cont 707 Ex Laser 189635 DY 59

pij27 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 27 Jul 10 Location: Ryde / Tilbury Online Status: Offline Posts: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote pij27 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 18 at 11:21am
	Think it is iron or steel, definitely ferrous as appear rusty at top of housing, even with all the grease.

423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3399	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 18 at 12:16pm
	Can you get in to swing a hammer ? Presuming it uses a hoist to lift and its own weight to descend, probably corrosion got hold of it

pij27 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 27 Jul 10 Location: Ryde / Tilbury Online Status: Offline Posts: 44	Post Options Post Reply Quote pij27 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 18 at 1:03pm
	Only way to do that would be to have a long drift and use a hammer on that