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And you could buy a decent lawn mower or golf clubs and spend the rest of your life in other mediocrity. Personally I'd rather blow the thirty odd grand I think the running total must be by now and actually enjoy sailing something pleasant, that's the beauty of this sport....

Spot on !! (well we do agree occasionally).

If you want to save even more still you can just sit at home watching  TV or fiddle around on the web....  before going off to the pub round the corner for a good grumble with the other sad gits who know the cost of so much and the value of very little in life.

As my old Dad said to me years ago "you are a long time dead"  .... so do some of the stuff in the meantime because you enjoy it not because it 'hits the spot' on some damned cost-benefit  spreadsheet.   And btw that does include monetary justification of sailing awful stuff ... for year after year etc etc etc.

Well that is me done for a while ..... Wink




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It's a nice idea guys.... carpe diem! YOLO! Buy it now, bury me in it later!  

But then I guess both of you have paid off your mortgages, put your kids through uni / schools or whatever and aren't carrying the can for a national debt not caused by the generations above you ;-)

You certainly aren't really needing to worry too much about an inevitable Corbyn Government coming in to destroy your generations's entrepreneurial spirit, increase taxes and kill off any desire to push society further forward - phased by self doubt that the generations coming next will be poorer than the ones before them for the first time in centuries.   

And the worst of it is, it's totally understandable.  Jezza will be elected off the backs of a younger generation who feel out of options - sold out to pay for your equity release schemes and pension offloads to pay for that 30k boat- to hell with your care bills that come down the line.   Money never truly earned from your labours- just market forces on cheap property booms never to be seen again.  Young people left with the choice between an 8 x income level mortgage or an equally usury 60+% wage rental bill for single bedroom flats.... that's what's actually paying for those boats.  Or are you suggesting that you'll put a few hours in Tesco overnight stacking shelves buying said boat block and tackle piecemeal?

Anyway, all rather gloomy and political.... enough to make you dance about on stage like to total f**king clown in elation at the prospect.  But thank goodness your generation didn't vote away the rights of young people to escape it all too.... oh, hang on.   ;-)  




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]You can buy a slightly used ex-worlds Laser for about £5k, race it for a couple of years and sell it for £3k. That's value at the top end of OD racing,compared to buying an Icon or Asbo and seeing the thick end of £10k evaporate in a couple of years.


And you could buy a decent lawn mower or golf clubs and spend the rest of your life in other mediocrity. Personally I'd rather blow the thirty odd grand I think the running total must be by now and actually enjoy sailing something pleasant, that's the beauty of this sport it's multi faceted, sailing a laser just removes one of the facets.

When I compare my sailing budget with what I pay the bloody tax man to keep us in conniving retarded politicians or my Mrs for new bathrooms, kitchens and daughter accessories, I need to spend more, there's a huge deficit.

Perhaps you should consider adding a Laser to your fleet?
Tell your wife it's an investment.
I was expecting mine to depreciate at a few hundred quid a year, but two years on, people are asking more than I paid, for boats of a similar sail number.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

It's a nice idea guys.... carpe diem! YOLO! Buy it now, bury me in it later!  

But then I guess both of you have paid off your mortgages, put your kids through uni / schools or whatever and aren't carrying the can for a national debt not caused by the generations above you ;-)

You certainly aren't really needing to worry too much about an inevitable Corbyn Government coming in to destroy your generations's entrepreneurial spirit, increase taxes and kill off any desire to push society further forward - phased by self doubt that the generations coming next will be poorer than the ones before them for the first time in centuries.   

And the worst of it is, it's totally understandable.  Jezza will be elected off the backs of a younger generation who feel out of options - sold out to pay for your equity release schemes and pension offloads to pay for that 30k boat- to hell with your care bills that come down the line.   Money never truly earned from your labours- just market forces on cheap property booms never to be seen again.  Young people left with the choice between an 8 x income level mortgage or an equally usury 60+% wage rental bill for single bedroom flats.... that's what's actually paying for those boats.  Or are you suggesting that you'll put a few hours in Tesco overnight stacking shelves buying said boat block and tackle piecemeal?

Anyway, all rather gloomy and political.... enough to make you dance about on stage like to total f**king clown in elation at the prospect.  But thank goodness your generation didn't vote away the rights of young people to escape it all too.... oh, hang on.   ;-)  



You really need a blow job. Or failing that we have a demo day in the H2 on 13th October!
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Originally posted by RS400atC

Originally posted by iGRF

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]You can buy a slightly used ex-worlds Laser for about £5k, race it for a couple of years and sell it for £3k. That's value at the top end of OD racing,compared to buying an Icon or Asbo and seeing the thick end of £10k evaporate in a couple of years.


And you could buy a decent lawn mower or golf clubs and spend the rest of your life in other mediocrity. Personally I'd rather blow the thirty odd grand I think the running total must be by now and actually enjoy sailing something pleasant, that's the beauty of this sport it's multi faceted, sailing a laser just removes one of the facets.

When I compare my sailing budget with what I pay the bloody tax man to keep us in conniving retarded politicians or my Mrs for new bathrooms, kitchens and daughter accessories, I need to spend more, there's a huge deficit.

Perhaps you should consider adding a Laser to your fleet?
Tell your wife it's an investment.
I was expecting mine to depreciate at a few hundred quid a year, but two years on, people are asking more than I paid, for boats of a similar sail number.

I got near double for the last Laser I sold, I did split it down a bit though, had a radial and 8.1 rig for it and a road base.
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.. I'm inclined to agree with H2 on the first point he made  .... LOL

... why not try a range of 'new' experiences, life sounds like it is getting a bit stale... Try an H2 as suggested, maybe a decent Blaze even for that matter ... or whatever.  Possibly even try a large handicap event or two - you never know you might get to see what 'others' are quietly getting on with away from the web... and even seem to enjoy.

While you are at it maybe consider lightening up a bit on the political rant stuff.  You make FAR too many assumptions about 'others' btw.  Could be time to consider a good hobby to give a bit of perspective.  .. what's that  ?... you have one already ? 


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You really need a blow job. Or failing that we have a demo day in the H2 on 13th October!

will you throw in a steak too?   LOL   

And Mike - I was talking about generational income and spending patterns- nothing personal, no need to be so defensive....  Besides, the grey goat shimmied up to the lectern to announce austerity is over today, so let's all spend our money on boats again- yay! 

Quite ironic how all this goes full circle, wasn't it Dancing Queen that the naked Blaze sailors posted on YouTube?     
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.... I was talking about generational income and spending patterns- nothing personal, no need to be so defensive....  Besides, the grey goat shimmied up to the lectern to announce austerity is over today, so let's all spend our money on boats again- yay!n  (ETC ETC....)

TT - Stand well away from that keyboard .. and nobody will get hurt.  (You are really on to prove the point being made now....  Understand THIS STUFF DOES NOT REALLY MATTER.) Chill !!   Go Sailing or get yourself sorted out as H2 has suggested already ....  and I don't mean his steak offer btw . Wink

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It's a nice idea guys.... carpe diem! YOLO! Buy it now, bury me in it later!  
But then I guess both of you have paid off your mortgages, put your kids through uni / schools or whatever and aren't carrying the can for a national debt not caused by the generations above you ;-)
You certainly aren't really needing to worry too much about an inevitable Corbyn Government coming in to destroy your generations's entrepreneurial spirit, increase taxes and kill off any desire to push society further forward - phased by self doubt that the generations coming next will be poorer than the ones before them for the first time in centuries.   
And the worst of it is, it's totally understandable.  Jezza will be elected off the backs of a younger generation who feel out of options - sold out to pay for your equity release schemes and pension offloads to pay for that 30k boat- to hell with your care bills that come down the line.   Money never truly earned from your labours- just market forces on cheap property booms never to be seen again.  Young people left with the choice between an 8 x income level mortgage or an equally usury 60+% wage rental bill for single bedroom flats.... that's what's actually paying for those boats.  Or are you suggesting that you'll put a few hours in Tesco overnight stacking shelves buying said boat block and tackle piecemeal?
Anyway, all rather gloomy and political.... enough to make you dance about on stage like to total f**king clown in elation at the prospect.  But thank goodness your generation didn't vote away the rights of young people to escape it all too.... oh, hang on.   ;-)  


Oh dear the price of starch increased has it?

That's a fine piece of snowflake BS coming from a two homed executive living the dream..

Personally I could give a tinkers cuss to the latterday pussyboy and girl no hope generation of self entitled no marks. My lot endured rationing until we were seven and I think I was eight before I even experienced a banana, we roamed bomb sites as our playgrounds and worked from the moment we were able. Paper rounds, menial jobs whatever we could do to scratch a living, working with closed shops, unions, three day weeks, strikes inflation at 20%, then booms and busts at regular interval, making and losing small fortunes as the markets also waxed and waned, housing price collapses anyone remember Anthony Barber, and that other idiot Lawson was it? Then that exchange rate debacle under Major cost me three hundred grand as Sorus shorted sterling. We voted labour to get a swing of the pendulum back against the outrages of capitalism and what did we get? Blair, Brown and more of the same until the next financial disaster.
No, we've paid our dues and if the youth of today have any sense they'll deliver Corbyn and it'll be everything the b**tards deserve.

As long as I can encourage the Taxman to keep on provding me with boats I'll keep quoting that apt saying from our generation.. I'm alright Jack.

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