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iGRF
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Topic: Not seen at the show Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 11:37am |
Good to see they're sensible with kids and helmets even if the rest of the world is more concerned with buoyancy vests than something that is more likely to do you permanent damage and clearly has, I wonder just how much boom induced head injury plays a part in PYAG decision making.
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Cirrus
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 11:43am |
I would have tried to juggle the jib
and chute mouth to put the chute ahead of the jib tack but too late for that
now... Edited by Cirrus - 08 Mar 18 at 11:46am |
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Old Timer
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 11:57am |
I would have moved the jib tack to behind on that stainless bar ... raised the foredeck a bit to increase the mouth area .... but you have made you choice and I am sure you are happy with that ...
I doubt there will be any fleet racing so easy of use would have been my priority. |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 12:49pm |
You might wish to consider why the kite equipped Int Canoes universally have the kite chute behind the jib even though their jibs are well set back from the bow. There are are always pros and cons to every arrangement, but for whatever my experience is worth I would not consider having a chute in front of the forestay on that boat.
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Cirrus
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 2:03pm |
Old Timer .... If you look back a couple
of pages there is a pic of a Viper sportsboat - all 23' of it plus
bowsprit. It has a large spinnaker and consequently a large chute ... and
it is still sat behind the forestay. Size might not be everything - but
so is position ... Oh ... we did forget to say earleir the boat is known as ‘Venom’... (work it out ...) Edited by Cirrus - 08 Mar 18 at 2:04pm |
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 2:30pm |
Such bollox trying to justify dragging your kite around the forestay time and again when a simple system stops all that.
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fab100
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 2:49pm |
I am not sure that spinny is going to set so well on port with neither sheet in front of the forestay
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Cirrus
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 5:30pm |
I am not sure that spinny is going to set so well on port with neither sheet in front of the forestay...
Of course 100 ... But with no spinnaker in the sock it will not set either side really !! ... and all lines are simply tied off anywhere to hand. GRFi ... It is not like Venom was developed for you really. Those who have forsaken the spinnaker thing (for reasons still unknown ?) don't really get a say here .... Stick to hanging around a while on that spare rigging dangling off the mast on your new ride (nothing there that 2' on hull length would not solve btw - just saying) ... Edited by Cirrus - 08 Mar 18 at 5:32pm |
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Riv
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 5:41pm |
I've never liked dragging expensive, carefully crafted spinnakers through holes in any deck in any position and nor do I like bags.
Just came across a video of a Weta beating an FD around a course so it must be quite fast and it has a Screecher which stays up all the time and does seem to work well. So apart from drag and weight in the wrong place (doesn't seem to hurt the Weta) why don't asymetric boats use a furler instead of a chute? Is the performance loss so massive or is it now traditional? |
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Mistral Div II prototype board, Original Windsurfer, Hornet built'74.
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RS400atC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 18 at 5:58pm |
I don't think the canoe is relevant. They have very narrow bows, where it's also very wet. It's notable that their forestays are set well back from the bow. The kind of racing they are optimised for is probably quite different from the kind of club racing where a chute in front of the stay scores because we tend to hoist and drop on both tacks. |
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