Towing and insurance....Again

The Insured Vessel Subject to the terms and conditions of the policy the Vessel and any equipment listed on the policy schedule shall be covered for all costs in respect of:

Just in process of renewing my car insurance and have decided to check what Noble (my current boat insurance) put in there policy wordings as to claims related to towing
Have posted the link to the Policy wordings for Dinghies below but have come to the conclusion that:

The Insured Vessel
Subject to the terms and conditions of the policy the
Vessel and any equipment listed on the policy schedule
shall be covered for all costs in respect of:

1.3 Loss or damage to the Vessel whilst it is being
transported by road, rail, air or ferry within the
specified cruising range 

This would mean that any accident on the highway would result in my boat being insured regardless of who's to blame

But later in the policy in Regards to third party claims 

SECTION 3
Liability to Third Parties.
The Insured will be indemnified in respect of all sums
which they shall become legally liable to pay and shall
pay up to the limit shown in the policy schedule in
respect of any one accident or series of accidents
arising out of the same event in respect of 

Special Conditions and Exclusions Relating to
SECTION 3
The Insurers will not settle a claim in respect of

3.5 Accidents arising whilst the Insured Property is on
a private or public highway and is attached to a
towing vehicle. 

From this I've come to the conclusion that if my boat was to break free on the highway and cause damage to someone else's vehicle noble would not cover said claim and my motor insurance would 

What's everyone else's views on trailer cover with motor insurance policys VS Dinghy insurance cover?

Edited by ClubRacer - 01 Mar 18 at 9:56pm

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ClubRacer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 26 Sep 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 210	Post Options Post Reply Quote ClubRacer Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Towing and insurance....Again Posted: 01 Mar 18 at 9:32pm
	Just in process of renewing my car insurance and have decided to check what Noble (my current boat insurance) put in there policy wordings as to claims related to towing Have posted the link to the Policy wordings for Dinghies below but have come to the conclusion that: The Insured Vessel Subject to the terms and conditions of the policy the Vessel and any equipment listed on the policy schedule shall be covered for all costs in respect of: 1.3 Loss or damage to the Vessel whilst it is being transported by road, rail, air or ferry within the specified cruising range This would mean that any accident on the highway would result in my boat being insured regardless of who's to blame But later in the policy in Regards to third party claims SECTION 3 Liability to Third Parties. The Insured will be indemnified in respect of all sums which they shall become legally liable to pay and shall pay up to the limit shown in the policy schedule in respect of any one accident or series of accidents arising out of the same event in respect of *Special Conditions and Exclusions Relating to SECTION 3 The Insurers will not settle a claim in respect of* 3.5 Accidents arising whilst the Insured Property is on a private or public highway and is attached to a towing vehicle. From this I've come to the conclusion that if my boat was to break free on the highway and cause damage to someone else's vehicle noble would not cover said claim and my motor insurance would What's everyone else's views on trailer cover with motor insurance policys VS Dinghy insurance cover? Edited by ClubRacer - 01 Mar 18 at 9:56pm

423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3406	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Mar 18 at 10:10pm
	My car insurance covers trailer and boat whilst towing it also covers my caravan, if boat falls off trailer, you are covered for third party damage, same if trailer or caravan broke free, or you clipped another vehicle with either, car insurance would not pay for repairs or total loss to caravan or trailer etc. My caravan is covered fully comp' for crashes etc by it's own insurance and would liase with car insurance etc, but they would pay for repairs or total loss. Not sure about boat insurance, which is also fully comp', however my house insurance covers all my sports equipment against theft, loss or damage etc, this includes my boats, quite complicated I know, but I would ask your various insurers what they cover.

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3398	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Mar 18 at 11:17pm
	It is a veritable minefield. But my experience (gleaned from my recent experience and a couple of years working for an insurance company and studying the subject at college in my youth) bears out what is said above. The car insurance (assuming you have told them a tow bar is fitted to your vehicle) covers third party liability if you damage somebody else's property when towing. The insurance on the trailer/caravan/boat covers damage to the trailer/caravan/boat caused when it is being towed. The potential grey area is if your house insurance covers 'sporting equipment' (highly unlikely it will cover a caravan) and you probably need to check if it covers a boat being towed to a venue or event. If you have not specified this cover I think it likely that a boat will be excluded, either because of the, usually restrictive, T&Cs small print or because it exceeds a value above which the generic 'sports equipment' cover stops. Bikes are the usual issue here (boats are much less common) and many policies have restrictions or max values above which the bikes have to be listed individually (with an appropriate increase in premium). There are usually conditions relating to securing the item, bikes usually need to be locked to an immovable object, boats, I guess, will not be covered unless locked to the car and so on. So do read the small print, and do ask if you're not sure....... Edited by Sam.Spoons - 01 Mar 18 at 11:19pm
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423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3406	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 01 Mar 18 at 11:25pm
	With Sam on this, if in doubt ask, you would be surprised how cheap some of the add ons are, well worth the time to check.

ClubRacer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 26 Sep 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 210	Post Options Post Reply Quote ClubRacer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Mar 18 at 12:08am
	That was the main aim, to establish whether you needed to take out trailer cover with your motor insurance to be able to cover damage to third parties property in the unlikely event its the trailer that causes it

getafix Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143	Post Options Post Reply Quote getafix Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Mar 18 at 3:45pm
	be interesting to see what the answer is from the insurance company about this topic, I wouldn't have thought your home insurance would provide any coverage at all, those guys like to run a mile at the slightest excuse, probably because of all of those comparison sites and direct deals that have left them with much smaller margins

Sam.Spoons Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3398	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam.Spoons Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Mar 18 at 4:47pm
	Not sure that CR is suggesting your home cover can be a substitute for boat specific insurance. I'm pretty sure it won't provide third party cover when sailing but it may provide some cover against accidental damage or theft (probably subject to some draconian conditions). Just to clarify, most fully comp car policies provide third party cover when towing a trailer and if that is the case you don't need additional trailer cover. But they won't cover damage to or theft of the trailer/boat, that's what your boat insurance is for. If in any doubt about your own cover (boat or car) ask the insurance broker/company the question and ask for confirmation in writing or by email.
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andy h Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 13 Mar 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 69	Post Options Post Reply Quote andy h Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Mar 18 at 4:55pm
	I think third party covering risks to other road users but your boat policy covering the boat and associated equipment sounds about right. When I destroyed my Flying Fifteen rig on a road sign (ripping the centre console out of the hull and one of the side supports off the trailer too, not my finest hour), Noble were great and paid for the lot. Was about 20 years ago though. Edited by andy h - 02 Mar 18 at 4:58pm
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423zero Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3406	Post Options Post Reply Quote 423zero Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Mar 18 at 5:20pm
	When I added stored boats (ie boats I wasn't going to sail, so didn't have normal boat insurance) to my home insurance policy, some years ago now, 90% of small print was to do with bikes, (their is an epidemic of bike thefts), they just wanted details of where they were stored. Sam is correct, just ask and add if necessary.