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    Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 10:15am
Following a capsize yesterday racing a GP14 and the inevitable bathtub that follows, I thought what a good idea a bilge pump would be, anyone tried this and are they class legal ?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wee Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 2:27pm
Are you thinking electric or manual? 

Electric would involve heavy batteries switches and corrosion.

Bucket and a scared crew is still quicker I'd have thought.
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probably a manual one, less weight and less to go wrong, just need to find out if you can use one in a race.
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Fastest method of bailing out a dinghy is a bucket and frightened crew!

Face the stern of the dinghy, feet apart, and scoop the water over the transom (or stern deck). I reckoned that each scoop took 1-2 seconds, or 30 gallons per minute. 
You only need to remove sufficient water to prevent submarining - then pop the self bailers down and sail fast.

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I've used boats with bilge pumps. They seem to work, but stuff gets tangled round them quite easily. I'd probably use one if long distance dinghy cruising.

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I can't imagine any practical bilge pump being fast enough to warrant the clutter of fitting it. When I started at my first club which was open sea all the Wayfarers always carried heavy duty builders buckets, seem to do the job.
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A bilge pump won't be as fast as a bucket when the bat is completely swamped, but it would be awfully handy for the interim period where the boat is sailable, but has too much water in for self bailers to work, especially if you could operate the bilge pump when sat out.
And because they were expensive, advantageous, but inessential kit in the days when cost of ownership was a much bigger thing that it typically is now. most classes prohibited them.
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Small electric pump and removable rechargable battery (drill size) plus a bailer sounds like a good combination.
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I'd see it as an aid to removing water dumped into the boat whilst upright than for post capsize water removal. 2 big buckets, as has been said, for that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 18 at 7:45pm
Where would you put big bucket ? 
Have visions of putting foot in it  LOL
Hand bailer seems best option, would still cost you race, a Gp with air bags holds a substantial amount of water coming up from a capsize.
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