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    Posted: 21 Jan 18 at 1:48pm
I'm trying to replace the continuous lines on my dinghy and following the instructions from the online video below for joining 4mm marlow... I CANNOT get the outer to fit inside and pull through the other outer no matter how I try. It just seems far to big. Any suggestions what I could do please? or even an alternative rope that is easier to join

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use the english braids equivelent. its dyneema rather than technora/snakeskin which gives it that matte feel

https://www.sailboats.co.uk/english-braids-continuous-control-line

Obviously the less grippy the rope the easier the splice will pull through. To counter this just make the splice a decent size (aka the full depth of your pull fid) Not had any issues with mine yet


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Post Options Post Options   Quote elzorillo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 18 at 4:43pm
Thanks.. I'll give that a go.

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I used this stuff, just need the a wire or pull fid like the video rather that a push fid. Looks real neat when done.

English Braids own marlow... so marlow and braids could be same rope?

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Marlow excel control

  • Durable Technora & polyester cover for high strength and abrasion resistance
  • Light weight polypropylene core

English Braids - Continuous Control Line


The Continuous Control line is a light polypropylene cored rope with durable high performance Dyneema® and polyester mix cover

ROOSTER EASYSPLICE™ CONTINUOUS CONTROL LINE


Rooster also do a continuous control which is also dyneema/polyester based but a little cheaper per meter than i could find the English Braids

https://www.roostersailing.com/pd/Rooster-EasySplice-Continuous-Control-Line_106104.htm


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Pretty sure they're all the same. Technora is a marlow brand name fir a dynema. So they're all dynema / polyester covers with bulking polypropylene cores.

I bought mine off a reel with marlow branding. Was easy to splice. I'd be suprised if English braids manufactured an almost identical competing rope when they own marlow.

I'd check before replacing what you have. If you don't have a wire fid like the video then try getting one first.

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Use a wire type pull fit then make sure you don’t have more rope in the grip that absolutely needed, its not actually much then you should be able to work it through. Too much rope in wire loop and you’ll fight for hours
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I struggled for hours with the Marlow control until I learned to thin the one you're trying to pull through by pulling out and snipping off some of the coloured strands. Leave the black, that's the 'Technora' which holds the strength.
I've no idea what 'Technora' is but it does not handle or react to heat like Dyneema, it's more like what Marlow call Vectran, ie. grippy not slippy and burns doesn't melt.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote fab100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jan 18 at 10:00pm
Marlow and English Braids have same ownership but their continuous splice products are very different. The Marlow one is a bitch to use. The EB one is a doddle by comparison.

FWIW, I've also had a Marlow line break on me (RS100 kicker and not on the splice) but the EB replacement has been in use twice as long with no bother.

Not had chance to try the Rooster one yet
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Rooster's Spinfast is a re-branded Marlow 8 plait pre-stretched, its AllSpec Pro is also EB's  D-racer16 so I can only imagine that the Rooster Continuos Control is the EB Continuos Control line re-branded as well.

Rooster is a small company in comparison to the likes of Marlow and EB so I doubt they have the capability of producing a full range of products while still being competitive in price.
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