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Post Options Post Options   Quote mozzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Feb 18 at 2:54pm
Ha yes! Glad it's not just me who struggled to understand!

I still don't understand what they are saying about names of events and replacing event names but keep.

Seems like they should first decide why types of event they want (i.e the fundamental types of sailing they want competing). Then they should select equipment for those events. From the article I'm unsure if that is the process or not!

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Think its about policies and moving goalposts from the IOC that don't really match how sailing works. Ultimately, in the long run, do we really much care about the names of the events as long as the IOC are happy?


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Originally posted by sargesail

... will make it both accessible to a world-wide audience, and add interest.

Why would we want to make TV presentation of sailing more 'accessible' to an audience?
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Why wouldn't we?
Surely anything that brings sailing into the public eye is a good thing.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Why wouldn't we?
Surely anything that brings sailing into the public eye is a good thing.

Not if it adversely affects the quality of the racing. The AC series is pretty decent telly (for a couple of races anyway) but I'm sure the racing would be better if it was a couple of miles out to sea on bigger courses with longer legs and steadier winds.
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Originally posted by Brass

Originally posted by sargesail

... will make it both accessible to a world-wide audience, and add interest.
Why would we want to make TV presentation of sailing more 'accessible' to an audience?
Originally posted by 423zero

Why wouldn't we?
Surely anything that brings sailing into the public eye is a good thing.
Please don't think me obtuse, but Why?  What benefit does 'bringing sailing into the public eye' have for those people who participate in sailing?


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Please don't think me obtuse, but Why?  What benefit does 'bringing sailing into the public eye' have for those people who participate in sailing?

IF sailors were worried about falling participation and IF watching things like AC and Olympics coverage encourage people to take it up themselves then there would be a benefit.

While the first IF is true for many, I'm a lot more doubtful about the second. Does current TV coverage make people more likely to take part? I fear not. In general I'm not at all convinced that sports coverage is generally seen as having anything to do with what you do yourself - it's just another form of reality entertainment for most.

I do think good TV coverage would be of real interest to existing sailors but I often/generally find the quality of the editing of what's shown and the commentary is aimed at spectacle intead of informed coverage and comment.
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I'll spend an hour participating in a race whenever I can(would be this morning, but full of cold) but it has to be something pretty special to get me watching sailing on screen for an hour. But I watched the Ireland rugby match yesterday, which, barring the last 5 seconds, wasn't very special at all. Some sports are better on telly than others, I guess.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Feb 18 at 11:19am
Sport participation across the board is declining,  their is more sport on tv now than ever, so perhaps sailing on tv won't help ? Would the decline across all sports be more pronounced without coverage?

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I do wonder whether the increasing gap between the amateur game and the professional game does not help the growth of sports, not just sailing.

Back in the day as a 18 year old good club sailor, you could still see a route to the top of the game, be it Olympics, Admirals Cup or America’s Cup.

In particular there were successful mavericks.

Now, unless you have participated in the squad systems from an early age, that particular horse has bolted.

Media presentation of the sport was across the board, the Telegraph, Times and Guardian all had correspondents who turned up to the major chamionships and WOW ... it was all very aspirational.

Now I cannot see how the AC relates to what we do, except that the boats are wind powered.  The Olympics are far removed with a dumbed down format for TV.
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