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Rupert
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Topic: Star Sailors League Posted: 20 Dec 17 at 9:02pm |
When did the rule come in?
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rb_stretch
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 17 at 9:07pm |
Curious what the tacking angles are? |
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KazRob
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 17 at 9:12pm |
What rule - on hiking harnesses and straps (hobbles aren't allowed and crews use a double strap that you just turn your feet around inside of). I think in the late 60s - have a look here, especially 'fat' Dennis Connor and his crew in a double hike on page 9 of the PDF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 17 at 9:27pm |
I'm not sure on exact numbers for tacking angles but my usual trick of tacking when I can just see the mark when looking as far round behind my rear shoulder when hiking always ended up in being waaay over the layline in the Star. I learned to judge it looking over my forward shoulder and teh crew's head as he hiked but it did vary depending in breeze so never measured it. Prob 75-80deg if I had to guess tho
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 17 at 9:30pm |
I was thinking of the wobbly downwind rule.
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KazRob
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 17 at 9:36pm |
Rupert - I'm not sure as I think it might just be a SSL rule but I understand there is a proposal to include it in the Star championship rules above a certain windspeed. The crew has always been allowed on the foredeck as far as I know but around 15 years ago it was found to be a lot faster downwind as long as you could keep the boat upright (they have been know to capsize from a death roll) and the crew on the boat (it can be a bit slippy up there). Standing up tho allows the crew to spot the wind better as well
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 20 Dec 17 at 11:17pm |
OK, very good for dinghies, but in the mix for racing keelboats. I'm sure the chines make a difference. I would be curious which vessels point the highest upwind, I suspect the supermaxi's like Wild Oats XI must be right up there. Unfortunately I'll never get to experience it first hand. |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 17 at 7:55am |
Thing is, because of the affects of apparent wind, to point really high a boat must be both very low drag with a very efficient rig, but also rather slow for its size. A speed limited keelboat is always going to be favourite.
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 17 at 8:30am |
After many years racing I can conclude the vessel that points the highest is always the one starting immediately to leeward of me!
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Dec 17 at 8:34am |
Apart from Mozzy's answer, which is spot on, I'd think that boats like the Metre classes would rank very high on pointing ability. The old AC monohull also.
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