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    Posted: 08 Nov 17 at 4:53pm
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Rastegar won... Kirby lost.  

thanks largely to World Sailing's treachery I suspect. I will never understand how they could side with the one who had not stuck to their contractual obligations, failing to pay the designer his due royalties, for years.

Ant of course, what a great job Rastegar is now doing. Anyone not struggled to get official Laser parts when they need them?
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Rastegar won... Kirby lost.  

thanks largely to World Sailing's treachery I suspect.

AIUI Kirby lost on legal technicalities. The rights and wrongs never seemed to come into it, which seems par for the course for US civil law.

Edited by JimC - 08 Nov 17 at 6:09pm
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Rastegar won... Kirby lost.  

So what does that actually mean for the class?
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Originally posted by fab100


Originally posted by turnturtle

Rastegar won... Kirby lost.  

thanks largely to World Sailing's treachery I suspect.

AIUI Kirby lost on legal technicalities. The rights and wrongs never seemed to come into it, which seems par for the course for US civil law.


Sentiment shared here Jim, as for what it means to the class, no idea really... same old, same old: two tier system of club racers vs the circuit guys I guess
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So what does that actually mean for the class?

It means the class has two main builders worldwide who hate each others guts, have each cost the other a lot of money in litigation, and who have rather different visions for the future of the class.
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I thought boats built by Bruce Kirby and associates can't be called, or sailed as, Lasers. 

Is he actually allowed to build an identical boat BTW, the IP argument all went a bit beyond my understanding (or at least my will to read the fine print)?
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So what does that actually mean for the class?

It means the class has two main builders worldwide who hate each others guts, have each cost the other a lot of money in litigation, and who have rather different visions for the future of the class.

Who are the two builders?
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by 2547

So what does that actually mean for the class?

It means the class has two main builders worldwide who hate each others guts, have each cost the other a lot of money in litigation, and who have rather different visions for the future of the class.

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In future whenever I feel aggrieved that I can't change something on one of my boats I'll go and read this https://www.laserinternational.org/rules-and-regulations/illegal-equipment/  Angry
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In future whenever I feel aggrieved that I can't change something on one of my boats I'll go and read this https://www.laserinternational.org/rules-and-regulations/illegal-equipment/  Angry

Most on that list is fair enough; but some seems a bit silly,

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