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Topic: Endeavour 2017: Prediction thread Posted: 11 Oct 17 at 2:39pm |
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Ask yourself, is the difference in average competitor skill for each class wider than the difference in skill for the top sailors for each class. Bare in mind the top sailors are often out layers and many dominate their own class, and it's not unknown for individuals to dominate the Endeavour. It's also the USP of the event that it gets everyone together in one class.
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elzorillo
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 17 at 2:42pm | |
Yeah.. a handicap race with the national champion from each class at a nice venue.. I'd prob pay to watch that too.
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 17 at 3:11pm | |
In theory not, in terms of actual sailing skills required to win, i.e. good boat handling coupled to sailing tactical skil. As for the USP, that would be fine if it were a class that advantaged nobody in particular. I'd love to see them all in a fleet of Alto's, the boat is big enough not to advantage light crews over heavy, yet easy enough for them to still get the best out of it in strong weather it is also tactical but not too technical, shame it could never happen. |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 17 at 3:16pm | |
How come the Merlin champion crew is helming?
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Cirrus
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 17 at 3:24pm | |
The Draycote 'Silver thingame' of old, now no longer run as far as I know, was an invitation event to I think the FOUR boats in each class selected by the CA's and usually the top ones if available. A handicap event and a lot of fun. OK OK the purists will not like it ...but they never did anyway..... but as ever they were always able to decline the invitation. Few did ...
Now just maybe this is one, or something very similar, for Sailjuice to revive with its growing momentumn ? Edited by Cirrus - 11 Oct 17 at 3:25pm |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 17 at 3:27pm | |
Yeah shame GRF, it would be nice if the class could vary and be kept secret until the day so no one could 'train'. Better still if it were a boat no-one had specific expertise in, but was ubiquitous enough that that everyone would be comfortable applying there skill to it.
The Xenon was perfect in that regard, however, you could say those who did the event before started to get a considerable advantage. And it's not like there were many laying around a new competitor could get their hands on to practice in to level the playing field (you did get a day practice on Friday).
Getting 30 identical boats to the crouch is a financial and logistical hurdle though and I think the Royal Corinthian do a pretty good job. The 200 will favour 200 sailors. But, it's a pretty bog standard racing boat in terms of technique. It's also common enough that most people either have experience of it, or can get their hands on one to practice; so that levels the playing field. Edited by mozzy - 11 Oct 17 at 3:29pm |
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 17 at 3:50pm | |
Agreed the 200 is probably the best pragmatic choice for all the reasons given.
There is another option that would make for a cool event. They have to swap boats each race. |
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Jack Sparrow
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 17 at 3:58pm | |
Because when I did it in one of those Xenon's not only was it like sailing around in a jelly mould that delivered next to no feed back, bits failed quite a bit. Crews actually busted poles just by gybing. Plus the smaller crews were defiantly disadvantaged. I'd say the RS200 is about bang on for a fair competition. (Well as fair as you can be).
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Gordon 1430
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Oct 17 at 4:26pm | |
A definite disadvantage to proper size people. Andy Couch would struggle to fit in a 200 and he is light at the moment. |
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