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Topic: Is there a future for the Solution? Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 8:43am |
My lovely new Hadron H2 fully rigged weighs in at 75kg, the biggest issue is getting it onto the trolley which is sealed aluminum box frame and floats!!
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 9:21am |
The trolly needs correctors fitted
BTW is that weighed or claimed?
Edited by Sam.Spoons - 19 Sep 17 at 9:22am |
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 10:05am |
I have no weighed it so it is claimed but there are boats in the park that are well known what they weigh so you can compare quite easily - it certainly is in that ball park.
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 10:30am |
I'm sure a builder like Keith C will be weighing his boats at the factory door and the numbers quoted will be accurate (unlike some 'larger' manufacturers who shall remain nameless). However I'd venture an extra 5-10 kg on a 90kg boat plus trolly rig is impossible to judge just by pulling one up the slipway (the 60+kg difference between my Blaze and Spice OTOH.......)
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 12:12pm |
Trolleys that float are a nightmare in any kind of shore break, it's nice to have a light trolley for moving around the boatpark but if you're trying to recover water direct to trolley, a 'floater' moving about as much as the boat is can be quite problematic.
75kgs by the way is nothing to be proud of, it's still heavy. |
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 12:49pm |
75kg is something to be proud of in a boat for someone who is 95kg and does not want to be crawling around on his knees and hence needs to be long, wide and deep!!
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 12:58pm |
I'm sure it's a nice boat, certain of it in fact, but all the time people accept that weights like 75kg are viewed as 'acceptable' it doesn't help those of us that want lighter vehicles to lift and hump around boat parks, up and down slipways and beaches. Sorry, no personal insult intended.
There's a reason the health and safety executive reduced the weight luggage handlers can lift from 32 kilos to 25. It involved back problems. Edited by iGRF - 19 Sep 17 at 1:00pm |
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 1:04pm |
Well coming from an RS400......its feather weight!!!
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 1:08pm |
Considering that it is sailing weight it's not too shabby, it is a beamy, relatively deep 14' boat. I'd guess that a hull weight of 56kg is a good compromise between strength/durability and light weight. The Aero, at 30kg (claimed........) is pretty fragile despite being 20cm shorter, 55cm narrower and with much less freeboard (adding up to probably 30% less hull surface area). Sure it can be done lighter but at a cost.....
To make the trolly sink just remove the bungs in the tubes so they fill with water (or drill big holes in the ends)? Remember to hose them out after dipping them in sea water and you'll be fine. At least you won't have the problem I had when I had my trolly re-galvanised....... They couldn't get it to sink in the molten zinc 'cos the times were full of sand and shells....... They eventually managed to stand it on end and bash it 'till it all fell out and got the job done. Edited by Sam.Spoons - 19 Sep 17 at 1:13pm |
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rich96
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 19 Sep 17 at 2:45pm |
That would be less than a Phantom ? and not much more than a Laser ? |
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