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zeon
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Topic: Is there a future for the Solution? Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 1:15pm |
When the solution launched it failed to make a dent in laser sales for many reasons. That gap in the market is now filled by the D zero and aero. These classes have just hoovered up new laser sales and affected sales in other classes like the streaker and the lightning.
Think turnturle must have been the only non squad sailor to buy a new laser in the last few year. |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 1:50pm |
Bet you're wrong. Think about the very competitive masters fleets. |
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turnturtle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 1:54pm |
never bought a new Laser.... the process would stick in craw too much!
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 1:55pm |
When the Solution launched it no doubt suffered at the hands of the establishment within the PYAG and got slaughtered,1050 ish I believe, it was also 2006-7 so launched straight into the banking crisis and I understand the company that developed/marketed it went up the pictures as lots and lots of small businesses in the leisure industry did as the banks withdrew funding in order to try and rebuild their balance sheets and were facing new tough guidlines as to lending ratios against their own resources.
It also suffers with being a Northern centric class, the builders are up 'there', the designers also, way beyond the ice wall, so it was only popular amongts the wildlings. The first time I saw it and loved the look of it, there was nobody on hand to even talk about it and frankly it was next door to the Phantom stand and I didn't want to risk either being splashed by or even being part of their pie filling. |
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iGRF
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 2:10pm |
I would agree and disagree, the Phantom tacks a lot slower than the Solution, so in confined waters like our lake where you can't go anywhere for more than two minutes without tacking or gybing and the racing is all about water calls, shifts and breaking covers, also shallows don't give you hassle, there simple is not a modern boat like it for confined water. It can be used on the sea and is a much better 'sea' boat than a lot I could mention, but what makes it great on puddles makes it very hard work on big open water courses with the 'wrong' wavelength for its 390 mtrs. You are racing Lasers most of the time, close quarter inland you sail well and they f**k up and you win, on the sea they can still f**k up and beat you because of that extra waterline length offwind, very tedious, you're pumping like a b**tard and they just sit there slowly eating you up. There's a young guy down the lake 96kg and early twenties wins a lot in it, beats me in light weather which proves I'm still not as good as I think I am, which is great, but on the sea he probably wouldn't be as lucky, not that we've raced on salt water lately, wish I'd gone to the Nationals, the first day looked like my sort of weather. |
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Papa Smurf
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 4:50pm |
I'm looking to change class next year. The Solution is high on my list of possibilities, purely because it's a great boat to sail.
The downside is there aren't many about to sail against. All those that sail the more traditional, popular class are warning me off the boat. If the Solution as a class has a future, then I would probably ignore them and go for the Solution because I enjoy sailing it. If the class is dying then that would be a mistake. |
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Steve411
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 5:15pm |
80kg is fine if you sit out. |
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getafix
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 5:28pm |
If you don't own, sail and travel in this market space then buy any of the fine boats listed in this thread already; RS100, Supernova, Blaze, D-Zero, Phantom et al. If do want to travel to well attended events and have a big class assoc etc then you will need to choose from Aero, Laser or Solo. By well attended I mean 50+, I know the 100, Phantom and Blaze all get to around 50 but rarely north of 50 or pushing 100+.
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rich96
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 7:12pm |
Ummm - Phant had 60 at their Nationals, Supernovas 100+ and Lasers less than 30 ??? |
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GarethT
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Sep 17 at 7:55pm |
Lasers had much more than the aero then, if you're just counting the big rigs.
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