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Cirrus
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Topic: Is there a future for the Solution? Posted: 22 Sep 17 at 9:18am |
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Peaky et al ....
We'll see if we can get a few Blazes along on 21st October as well .... most will be happy enough to let others 'have a go' if conditons are reasonable. The boat caters from 'GRF light' to 'the full Phantom' in terms of crew weight ... and has had champions both below 70kg and over 95kg in the past. Now we have additonal sail options this is opening up the class even more. Hopefully CU there .... |
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 22 Sep 17 at 7:36am | |
I think that for many people you have hit upon the key issue. You are left with a choice of sailing a boat like a solo that has a strong following at club and global level for which your body shape is a compromise or else accept that you will be sailing in handicap races in a boat that you are comfortable sailing and that was designed for your size and I think this is where the Solution and H2 find themselves. I agree they are a niche product at the moment but for me I would rather have a boat I loved to sail because it fits me and I am not worried about being 95kg and hence too heavy even if that means depreciation when (if) I come to sell. I get one life and in the greater scheme of things I would rather sail a boat that I love rather than a boat that lots of skinny old men love (I am trying to be funny.....)
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NickM99
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 10:17pm | |
I really like the look of the H2 but wouldn't buy one for all the reasons that DavidY points out - and compared to e.g. a new Solo, the depreciation would be eye-watering.
I wonder if anybody has thought of forming a syndicate to buy a boat like this as a second boat for fun racing. The trouble is that everybody in the syndicate would probably want to sail it at the3 same time. Sorry - this should be on the H2 thread! Edited by NickM99 - 21 Sep 17 at 10:18pm |
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davidyacht
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 8:55pm | |
To be fair to Keith, despite my comments I also demoed the H2 at Salcombe, I really liked it, and if fleet racing and trips to Garda were not available with the Solo, I would probably order an H2.
My comment was really directed at having done many demos over the years on both sides of the coin, often the demo is to satisfy a curiosity and the reward for effort is often not too high. I really like how Keith is marketing the H2 and it seems to be maintaining momentum, but I think he is puting in a huge effort.
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maxibuddah
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 6:24pm | |
Excellent as I really want to have a look at one. I'm almost certainly too fat for one but I like the look. |
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 1:35pm | |
Planning to be at this with my H2!
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 12:58pm | |
If I can get a shameless plug in...
Chew Valley Lake SC are hosting a singlehanded open on 21st October (Trafalgar Day, in memory of our greatest ever singlehanded sailor). There will be H2, Phantoms, D0 and many more besides, in what I hope will be something of a FOM atmosphere. If you bring your Solution, Graeme, I promise to swap for a race if you want. For anyone interested in joining in, PM me for details. |
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Simon Lovesey
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 10:32am | |
Demo boats are a great idea, particularly when you can test and compare to other similar classes.
Last year's GJW Direct SailJuice Winter Series saw over 1,000 competitors from 278 sailing clubs taking part in 89 different racing classes. With several classes and builders using the Series for demo sails. This year we are going to promote this more, with a dedicated page highlighting what classes are available and at which events. Already a few have signed up, please PM me if you want your class involved, Solutions most welcome. Edited by Simon Lovesey - 21 Sep 17 at 10:41am |
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 10:02am | |
We had demos of both the D-Zero and the H2 at Hunts. We had people turn up for both from other local clubs. Of those who tried the boats from Hunts only I bought in initially. Keith was kind enough to let me have a play in the H2 (and he and Simon tried a D-Zero).
Demo days are great at getting the boat visible and the CA can play a big part in helping with them. The D-Zero class has a network of willing boat owners who can offer demos so you can get one at any time somewhere close to you. I have done several myself and I know people have bought in (and joined the club too). So it can work but it does rely on the goodwill of boat owners to support the manufacturer/builder/distributor.... |
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 21 Sep 17 at 9:27am | |
Our club invited Keith C to bring the Hadron over for a test sail and about ten people showed up to take it for a spin. Some people also offered to make their solo's and Vareo's available to people for back-to-back tests which helped me make my mind up as I was clearly too big for both. Following this two people bought H2s and a third is selling his kidneys to buy one. My point is that you can invite the boats your missing and ask people to make their boats available for back-to-back tests if you want (assuming you are part of a friendly club)?
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