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GML
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Topic: Requesting Redress Posted: 10 Jul 17 at 11:06am |
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Whilst accepting that it is not binding in all situations, I would refer the honourable gentleman to paragraph 6.3 of Section B of the World Sailing Jury Policies, February 2017 (http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/JuryPoliciesFebruary2017-[22447].pdf):
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 17 at 11:12am | ||
Thank you.
Can't argue with that. |
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 17 at 1:41pm | ||
I appreciate what you are saying there but a lot of club ROs are volunteers. if you got really anal about something like this you would find your volunteer list would shrink considerably and club racing would be in jeapordy. The OP should have chucked in a request for redress and seen what the PC came back with. there was clearly a but of fault on both sides. The OP for missing the 2 previous signals and the RO for not abandoning the start once the flag had got stuck. There seems to be little appetite at club level for training to be an RO with most people wanting to 'wing it' on the day. Most club level racing is fairly laid back even if the on the water action is competitive (just my experience as opposed to the letter of the law).
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Paul
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ClubRacer
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 17 at 6:17pm | ||
in this situation it was the most prestigious race series of the club calendar and it so happened I wasn't going to be competitive due to 1 reason or another and decided I would seek clarification over a few points on here than cause issues within the club. As per the comment about not bringing up issues like this to prevent losing volunteers; where do you draw the line between losing volunteers because they don't wont tolerate criticism or losing competitors because the sailing is sh*t
The whole point of those 3 signals is to indicate how long is left until a start otherwise we would only have 1, even if i had have synced my watch at the 5 minute and then inside the 1 minute mark realized the P flag was still up I could still have aborted the start and assumed my watch was wrong. Had it been anything but a P flag you certainly would abandon your start than risking taking a penalty What did we rely on before waterproof watches?
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 17 at 7:09pm | ||
Stopwatches on a lanyard round one's neck, I seem to remember.
The measured candle on the foredeck was less successful. |
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PeterG
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 17 at 10:22pm | ||
What did we rely on before waterproof watches?
Hourglasses, of course. Possibly a little limited in resolution.
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Peter
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 17 at 12:37am | ||
I don't think expecting competent performance by race officials is 'getting really anal', but my post:
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Brass
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423zero
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 17 at 7:09am | ||
I was RO a couple of months ago, I had started race, all in correct sequence, boats away, had to call them back, been going about 2 minutes, abuse level unbelievable, only a club race.
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 17 at 7:32am | ||
Why the recall?
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