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Sam.Spoons
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Topic: cheap singlehander for inland lake racing Posted: 06 May 17 at 11:39am |
Why, do you?
It is a cracking boat though.....
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 17 at 2:29pm |
Having owned both, there is no comparison in boom height. It is both higher and the cockpit deeper. Plenty more room than a Laser, for comparison. In a blow, they will have nosediving issues if you take too much kicker off and free the main too far. The old needlespars are quite bendy, and can end up over the bow. They are no worse than the Europe, which I turned into a paddling pool several times, with the bonus of being self draining. |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 17 at 2:59pm |
I looked at the google images for the Lightning after I posted and had reached that conclusion
I won't be sailing it on the sea so the nosediving issues are probably somewhat mitigated. There are a couple of cheap ones on Apollo Duck just now but at the other end of the country (one near my sisters though, I feel a visit coming on). Still thinking Supernova at the moment, I'm a better light wind sailor than heavy so I'd like something that flatters me when it blows (like the Blaze).
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turnturtle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 17 at 3:06pm |
GRumpf - If you sailed half as well as most of the women who've ever spent significant time in the Europe Class, you'd be taken a shed load more seriously ;-)
They are amazing boats - shame us young chaps weren't kicked out of Oppies at 13 and into them for a few seasons - far nicer boats than Laser Radials, Bytes etc Edited by turnturtle - 06 May 17 at 3:08pm |
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 17 at 3:13pm |
I'm still tempted to try to lose a little weight so I could sail a Europe, but then reality kicks in.......
So, realistically I'm down to Supernova, Lightning 368 and Streaker. There are used examples of each around at prices I'm prepared to consider. Edited by Sam.Spoons - 06 May 17 at 3:16pm |
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iGRF
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zeon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 17 at 10:58pm |
I have owned or sailed all of these. If you are over 12 and half stone buy the supernova. If you are under this and want a bargain/cheap boat, buy a lightning. If you have more money to spend buy a streaker.
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 06 May 17 at 11:28pm |
Interesting as Alan Gillard says on the Streaker website says :-
"As any of you who have tried it will know, windy weather Streaker sailing can be a difficult, but exciting experience that needs some practice and preparation to enable you to enjoy it to the full. To start with the boat isn't very well balanced on the helm. Upwind, despite it's obvious natural love of heading into wind, the boat becomes difficult to tack and maintaining the optimum heading needs excessive rudder movement if you are to keep on top of things." Doesn't inspire confidence..... The Supernova website suggests that the competitive weight range is 60-90 kg I'm around 12 stone (77kg in my shorts) so exactly in the middle. Is the Super nova CA selling duff information or is 12.5 stone (80kg) the minimum weight to be competitive in the 'nova? The Streaker, which is considerably shorter than the 'nova (410mm) claim a similar weight range, and the top ten at the 2016 Nats had sailors from 58 to 82kg. I'm nearer the top end of that range but still feel I'd be a bit heavy for the boat?
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ColPrice2002
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 17 at 7:12am |
A number of our Streaker helms have invested in the "Splash" mainsail - reduced size for those blustery days.
Colin
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zeon
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 07 May 17 at 9:11am |
I was 73kg when I had my supernova, had less trouble with it in heavy weather than I did with the laser I had before it.
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