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    Posted: 27 Feb 17 at 4:59pm
I've mentioned this a few times on other threads, but decided to make one for it.

UK Sport has given RYA 26 million for the run up to Tokyo 2020. I would like to know where does that money all go?

* Olympic only sailors / squads / coaches
* Grass roots sailing - e.g sailing schools
* Sailing clubs
* somewhere else?

I would love to know how much is passed down to sailing clubs which are the mainstay of the whole thing. Without clubs and passionate members, top sailors would unlikely be where they are.

I would love to see a scheme where clubs can develop into semi-professional clubs e.g paid staff to offer extra facilities/courses/events to encourage more memebers + keep exisiting members engaged.
Also to help clubs that might still be based out of huts/portacabins etc into purpose built sailing clubs - its hardly a positive advert for sailing when someone turns up to a run down shed and no hot water in the showers.
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It's cash for medals.
Nothing to do with ordinary people taking part in recreational sport.
They want GBR to look good in the medal table and they think sailing is worth a punt.

All that tulip about grants is all very well, but turning all the clubs into handout monkeys soon goes sour when the tap gets turned off.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GML Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 17 at 6:35pm
Funding for grass roots sailing comes from Sport England (and their equivalents in the other nations of the UK).


But individual clubs can also apply directly for funding from Sport England - see https://www.sportengland.org/funding/new-funding-when-to-apply/

I believe quite a number of sailing clubs have received support for various building projects of the type you suggest.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote A2Z Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 17 at 7:50pm
Worth noting the 26m over a four year cycle is 18k a day, including Sundays.  Would be interesting to know how that is spent.  Especially as badminton gets sweet fa over the same period.
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Originally posted by A2Z

Worth noting the 26m over a four year cycle is 18k a day, including Sundays.  Would be interesting to know how that is spent.  Especially as badminton gets sweet fa over the same period.

Is that Badminton the horsey thing, or Badminton batting a pretend dead chicken over a net?
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I believe that its badminton *failing* to bat the pretend dead chicken, which AIUI is why they lost their share of the dosh.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote A2Z Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 17 at 9:05pm
There were 5 badminton events and the UK got a one medal.  20% return ain't bad...

Anyhoo, given that the average sailing squaddie/coach/analyst/bosun/mind coach/what ever can't be on much more than 40k (100 a day), the travel and subsistence bill must be pretty hefty at Team GB to rack up 18,000 a day costs!  I wonder how much other countries are spending on trying to win at sailing?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote A2Z Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 17 at 9:26pm
It seems NZ have a budget of about 9m for Tokyo.  Australia spent about 18m on sailing at Rio.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Eisvogel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 8:49am
Originally posted by A2Z

There were 5 badminton events and the UK got a one medal.  20% return ain't bad...

5 events with 3 medals each is 15 medals. So the return is more like 6% (assuming all medals to be equal)  Wink
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Well...
21 support staff, 19 full time coaches.
24 Sailors in the Podium squad (fully funded with training camps, ISAF world cup events etc)
31 Sailors in the Podium Potential squad (fully funded, but a bit less, with all the same)
the fleet of support vans, RIBS etc.

Then the lower levels of the olympic pathway all have their own funding requirements for coaches, equipment etc (although the sailors do contribute at the lower levels).

It works out at roughly 69k budget per year per person if you work it out by the headcount on their website only.

Doesn't seem that unreasonable value if you ask me...  Don't think anyone's getting minted!


Edited by bustinben - 28 Feb 17 at 3:43pm
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