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JimC
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Topic: Club or Rya Membership required ? Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 9:01am |
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I don't think you're correct, but as my current CA is affiliated to the Canoe NA not the RYA I can't check the accounts for detail. According to this page: http://www.rya.org.uk/membership/for-clubs-and-associations/Pages/how-to-affiliate-to-the-rya.aspx There is definitely an affiliation process for Class Associations, and I'm very very sure that is quite separate to the National Class/Rule Management stuff. I believe you need to be an affiliated class to get CA rates at Sailboat. Its not hard at all to become an affiliated organisation, I think you just have to pay the fee, demonstrate you have a few members and that our organisation isn't totally unacceptable. The application for for affiliation looks like this:
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blueboy
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 9:33am | |
At one time I was involving in running the class association of a National class and iirc we were not affiliated.
I have looked but cannot locate a list of affiliated organisations. Edited by blueboy - 28 Feb 17 at 9:34am |
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PeterG
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 10:11am | |
It's quite clear now thanks as the rules of private members clubs state in law when entering an event one you agree to abide by there rules but too you are a temporary member for the period of the event.
I'm not sure why to started this "discussion" since you've decided to ignore everything you've been told here - that your statement above is clearly not true - other than perhaps to get a chance to tell us how you don't want to join a club or the RYA.
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turnturtle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 3:27pm | |
fair point... maybe I'd take a stronger view for serial offenders, but I'd encourage one or two events a year with a blind eye turned if it helped boost numbers and potentially resulted in another full fee paying body in a year or two.
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 3:40pm | |
Or offer an enhanced entry fee for non RYA/affiliated club members. This might have to be with advance entries only because it's difficult for clubs to offer daily 'membership' as licensing regs often require a 48 hour period between application and membership.
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 5:13pm | |
My understanding has always been that CA membership isn't enough.
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Sam.Spoons
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 28 Feb 17 at 5:53pm | |
To be fair to the OP to race most classes you have to be a CA member as well as either an RYA personal member or RYA affiliated club member so it seems like you're paying twice (and again for the actual event entry).
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Mar 17 at 1:42pm | |
Paying for CA membership actively supports the class of boat you sail and this helps give the class a voice with the builders and the RYA (if affiliated).
As I understand it being a CA member does not cover you as an RYA or RYA affiliated member for the purposes of entering an open meeting. For the simple reason the not all CAs are RYA/WS affiliated and their affiliation is different to a clubs affiliation.
Some club do offer temporary or short term membership for events but this is usually different to being a 'guest' during an event. |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Mar 17 at 2:05pm | |
Its funny, I had that understanding too, but from doing some sketchy looking up recently, from the RRS point of view I don't see why it should be. I don't know if its to do with the Yotty concept of reciprocal privileges between clubs, but that sort of nonsense doesn't come into my life! If anyone's really concerned they could check with the RYA rules query service. |
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turnturtle
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 01 Mar 17 at 2:31pm | |
wouldn't you have to be a personal member of the RYA to use it though ???
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