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Sam.Spoons
Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3398 |
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Topic: Frankenboat - what's yours? Posted: 10 May 18 at 9:45pm |
But invaluable when you get it wrong and end up with it over on it's ear........
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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Rupert
Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 18 at 6:44am |
Because putting a kite up on a small pond is attainable for an average sailor, where foiling is not. It can also be done at a good price, these days. The feeling of speed planing along with the kite up, maybe on the edge of one's ability, not really worrying about race results, on a sunny, windy day is great. For the rest of the time I'll take the unarig tactics and lack of fuss and clutter, and try to get a good result. A race car would sink on a small pond, surely? |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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JimC
Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6649 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 18 at 8:12am |
One needs to think about the fun/hassle ratio.
With singlehanded boats especially hoists and drops tend to be a pain, especially if the old body is not what it was. So supposing the hoist and drop adds 30 seconds of hassle to each leg, then if legs are only two minutes long then that's a fair bit of hassle for not that much clear sailing. Similar problems are true of a foiling boat until you reach the sort of level where you can actually keep the boat on the foils on every leg and through the manouvers. With a single sail boat the manouvers and roundings have a much lower hassle factor and take much less time, so you get more enjoyable sailing for your money, at the price of lacking the extremes of performance. |
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Sam.Spoons
Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3398 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 18 at 8:20am |
When I started the search for a singlehander 18 months or so ago the brief was no trap and no kite. I had both of those on the Spice and wanted something I could manage in most conditions. Blaze fills that brief admirably.
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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davidyacht
Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 18 at 9:03am |
On our estuary an assymetric singlehander would be a big problem, we do not have exclusive use of the water, having to share it with yachts, power boats, fishermen, moored boats, trots, pontoons; so keeping a very good lookout, and being able to manouver instantly are key requisites, and being able to run dead down wind inside the tide line is also key; so assymetric is never going to work.
A winged Phantom beater that has a sleppery hull for light airs and running is most interesting. The only bolt on that imo might make it more interesting would be a self taking jib that could be goosewinged on the run.
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Happily living in the past
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Steve411
Really should get out more Joined: 09 Sep 08 Location: Cheddar, Somerset, England Online Status: Offline Posts: 705 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 18 at 9:41am |
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iGRF
Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6496 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 18 at 10:01am |
Sometimes I feel like a big Cod that's accidentally been swept into a pond in a flood and the tides gone out listening to you lot.. How many una rigs do you need? It's one area that is entirely catered for and now with some truly excellent boats, Aero, D Zero, Solution, H2, to name just four that immediately spring to mind but us light sea dwellers albeit seasonal sea dwellers do want some sort of turbo assist for those long dreary processional legs infested with Laser. Tell me, what exactly is there for us? Nowt, Nada, Niet. If the current kite system doesn't work why doesn't someone come up with an alternate that does, screecher furler brought up to date springs to mind. Kites are bloody useless tearing ripping things with holes in them why not some thin gauge cuben fibre stuff cassetted..Or some dangly pole driven symmetric deal might work I did have a drawing for one somewhere didn't we talk about it some while back?
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 18 at 10:10am |
Ummm...RS100, D-1, Vareo.....probably others?
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H2
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 18 at 10:16am |
I do agree with you Graeme that there are some great Una rig boats that are now available but until the H2 came along there was not a modern design / material boat for the sailor that weighed more than a racing snake. If you were taller or heavier than 85kg then you were limited to a Phantom, Blaze (sea boat) or Finn, perhaps an OK or Solution at a push but an Aero and D0 were still tilted toward the skinner sailer. The boat shown by Cirrus looked to me like it might carry a bigger person and be a slippery design - hence able to be of interest to me as a H2 sailor who at the moment has few choices.
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Steve411
Really should get out more Joined: 09 Sep 08 Location: Cheddar, Somerset, England Online Status: Offline Posts: 705 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 11 May 18 at 10:34am |
And an RS300. And a 95kg sailor won the D-Zero Nationals last year.
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