Comparison- Rs400 and 59er experience

I don't know Bumble but it does seem a bit odd how he answers his own posts.

Hey, thats not fair Bumble. I think you are just skim reading these posts.

What other cons and Pro's are there in the 59er?



It is definetly an evolution in hull and rig from the 49er. The hull has
 a yet better drag curve and the rig is a one piece with the best
response of all the bethwaite craft so far. This allows for the
generous sail area, which is suitably flat for the rapid progress
the boat makes.

Ok so what are the numbers? Having had a glimpse of the polars,
it is of course a light wind blinder, but as I sailed it in both
light and 16 knts I don't see the issue at above 160kg all up.
In the light? Wait for it- wait for it

Up hill, wind speed 6,7- boat speed 6,1. Off wind speed app 7
boat speed 9. Recently quoted as being the fastest boat on the
water in Hong Kong one light day, and that included 40 footers.

Most likely you will not have a decent fleet number for a while.

This is a shame and a big draw back

59er or the 400?


If you have a fleet of 400s in
your club or area, then it offers good sailing, with some
 stregnth required, and a nationals second to not many.

 If however , at your club, you have a mix of L4000s, RS800s
B14s etc ie tru high performance craft then you will be able to
mix it with these boats with any crew who has crewed a dinghy in
races with a kite, or even just a yacht spinnaker
 trimmer who is a bit nimble for their size.

It will be a very tactical boat because of the ease of
actually sailing it,   which means even small fleets will
be engaging, or while in competition with other types of boats
the focus can be on tactics rather than just handling and
outright speed.

Also on smaller lakes or confined waters the 59er will offer
lightning fast tacks, hoist and drops in comparison to
twin trap or the B14 (bagged kite, not chute)

As I said in my experience the RS400 offers close,
tactical winward leewards and a circuit which is
hard to find better.

Edited by damp_freddie

yes, yes bumble- the other ones a campanologist