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croft
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Topic: ABandoning a race after it has finished Posted: 15 Aug 16 at 2:02pm |
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A race in a major national champsihips abaadoned several hours after it was finished on the water. The majority of the fleet finished the course within the time limit... can they do that??? - Rule is 31.1
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Aug 16 at 2:28pm | |
Possibly binned rather than abandoned. I would imagine there was some kind of hearing or meeting between the RC and the competitors.
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Paul
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Aug 16 at 2:30pm | |
They certainly can. Whether they should... normally its very much a last resort.
Jeffers, I can't find "binned" in the RRS!. Not sure what you mean. |
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jeffers
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Aug 16 at 6:52pm | |
Binned as in thrown out/ What they have effectively done is thrown the race out and will re-sail it. Looks like an almighty cock-up to me reading the report now, hardly the level of race management you would expect for a class national champs.
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GML
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Aug 16 at 10:50pm | |
In other words 'abandoned' - there isn't any other way to "throw out" a race that has been started (leaving aside a general recall). A race that has been abandoned may be resailed (see definition of Abandon in RRS).
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Aug 16 at 11:56pm | |
There is no rule 31.1. Relevant rules are:
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GML
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Aug 16 at 10:21am | |
RRS 64.2 may also be relevant:
64.2 Decisions on Redress When the protest committee decides that a boat is entitled to redress
under rule 62, it shall make as fair an arrangement as possible for all
boats affected, whether or not they asked for redress. This may be to
adjust the scoring (see rule A10 for some examples) or finishing
times of boats, to abandon the race, to let the results stand or to make
some other arrangement. When in doubt about the facts or probable
results of any arrangement for the race or series, especially before
abandoning the race, the protest committee shall take evidence from
appropriate sources.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Aug 16 at 10:55am | |
Seems to be the Merlin Nationals. Certainly sounds like a pretty good stuff up, although the report isn't very clear to me on exactly what went wrong. I should have thought that the RO advising people to go back isn't, if unsolicited, actually against the rules of sailing, even if it is a very unwise thing to do.
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Paramedic
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 29 Aug 16 at 2:00pm | |
It was a great shame that this happened on the first day and almost sullied the nationals before they had even started.
Aside from this, albeit extreme, cock up the rest of the week was ran very well by the race team and PSC. With regards to why the race was resailed, as i understand it there was enormous confusion with boats sailing through the finish line then sailing back to re round the mark before re finishing and once the published results were (Quite correctly) challenged it proved impossible to verify them presumably due to recording issues. The PRO stood in front of the whole fleet, apologised and invited requests for redress. The protest committee, PRO and fleet reps slept on things and the race was declared void and to be resailed the following morning - the only equitable outcome really though obviously harsh on those who felt they had done well. A lesson learned the hard way for someone, but it's very unlikely they'll make the same mistake again...............
Edited by Paramedic - 29 Aug 16 at 2:06pm |
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