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    Posted: 08 Jun 16 at 6:50am
Originally posted by 423zero

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It isn't the bit along the boom, it is the bit from boom to boat when gybing or even tacking. To get clear when tacking or gybing facing forwards you have to move so far aft you sink the stern, especially if big enough that much time is spent central in the boat.
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Originally posted by piglet

you have a boat worth investing in.

You spend money on a boat, you don't invest in it.

With a boat of that age you might if lucky get 10% of what you spend back in increased value when you sell it.
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Originally posted by Longwayround

My boat is, unless I'm very much mistaken, equipped with the superchute and steel plate

Check your boom diameter, if it's 1 3/4" then you have a boat worth investing in.
As you rightly say, improving the boat you already have would spread the cost.
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At large adult size, centre main will make the boat seem even more tiny, and you'll get the rope wrapped round your neck.
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Originally posted by Longwayround

Are there any genuine advantages to a centre main? 

Potentially controversial question!

The main reason, AIUI, that the Topper went to the centre main was that the RYA wanted all youth boats to be centremain so kids learned with them from the start. There's a kind of sense in that since relatively few boats use the aft main as a default option these days.

The centre main is not demonstrably faster round a race course in a Topper.

By preference I think I'd possibly teach kids with a centremain and adults with a stern main, but probably depends where and what they are going to sail to a considerable extent. Because a stern main is so much more intuitive than a centre main its much more trouble going from stern main to centre main than vice versa, but equally its more trouble to learn to sail in the first place with a centre main.

In higher performance boats a stern main has disadvantages, but such craft are tending to move from the conventional centremain with the last block on the floor to off the boom sheeting.
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I am, by the way, delighted that my first post to this forum has got such a healthy discussion going. :-)
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My boat is, unless I'm very much mistaken, equipped with the superchute and steel plate but even so it probably would be more economical to buy a newer Topper. That said, that would require me to spend all the money at once. :-)

Are there any genuine advantages to a centre main? 


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Variety is the spice of life and there is nothing wrong with an aft main, quicker to tack in light winds and easier to learn.

Frankly I feel that the emphasis on centre main is a barrier to inclusion and probably puts people off, it is really quite diffficult to do well and requires good coaching at times. Aft main is a bit like paddling a SOT, dead easy and works well, and look at the number of SOTs! My club has a rapidly expanding Canoe, Kayak group and a stagnant dinghy group. I know why.

So lets embrace variety and enjoy the aft main.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zippyRN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Jun 16 at 11:49pm
Originally posted by JimC

Why *fundamentally* wrong?

especially given that  aft mainsheet is  how  the topper was designed ... 


i'm not sure where the  reference to 'pre -production'  and a 16k  sail number came  from ... 

surely pre-pro would be the toppers that were all or half GRP ... 
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