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    Posted: 15 Feb 16 at 3:04pm
Seems the industry keeps innovating new boats ...

What I'd like to see is innovation in event formats; membership and club options and ways to increase participation ...


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Because no-one shows up these days unless the weather forecast suits them?

Although I'm still trying to get a sponsor interested in supporting a new format sailing series based on bandings, so far they haven't said no, but nor have they said yes, as is often the case in these protracted discussions, I'm about to have another go offering them a taster and if it works for them, maybe I could come up with something that might interest us all..

Having said all that, it would still involve hitching up the trailer and travelling but isn't that what we are all becoming increasingly reluctant to do?
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Originally posted by iGRF

Because no-one shows up these days unless the weather forecast suits them?

Although I'm still trying to get a sponsor interested in supporting a new format sailing series based on bandings, so far they haven't said no, but nor have they said yes, as is often the case in these protracted discussions, I'm about to have another go offering them a taster and if it works for them, maybe I could come up with something that might interest us all..

Having said all that, it would still involve hitching up the trailer and travelling but isn't that what we are all becoming increasingly reluctant to do?

Sites like wind guru have certainly taken their toll, perhaps events need to make sure they offer something to do even if the weather does stop play. 

Why are people still reluctant to travel to opens these days?
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Originally posted by 2547


Originally posted by iGRF

Because no-one shows up these days unless the weather forecast suits them?

Although I'm still trying to get a sponsor interested in supporting a new format sailing series based on bandings, so far they haven't said no, but nor have they said yes, as is often the case in these protracted discussions, I'm about to have another go offering them a taster and if it works for them, maybe I could come up with something that might interest us all..

Having said all that, it would still involve hitching up the trailer and travelling but isn't that what we are all becoming increasingly reluctant to do?

Sites like wind guru have certainly taken their toll, perhaps events need to make sure they offer something to do even if the weather does stop play. 
Why are people still reluctant to travel to opens these days?


Because the sport is populated by a mainly ageing demographic who cannot be 'rsed with the faff?

Well that's my excuse
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I go to venues I like or haven't been to before, if I go to an event and it's poorly run or the launching is rubbish, or sailing area massively one sided then I don't go back, simples. Thankfully most clubs on our circuit at least are quite good.

I also used to get too hung up on windguru and now provided the weather for the weekend hasn't been named I don't think that would stop me, better to go, see friends and have a laugh at the very least.


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Short course racing has taken off in several classes, slalom in others, and of course team racing is always there in the background for those who feel like it. Can be fun in unsuitable boats, too.
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Originally posted by 2547

Seems the industry keeps innovating new boats ...
What I'd like to see is innovation in event formats; membership and club options and ways to increase participation ...

Of course, it's not either/or. New boats and fresh management ideas would be very welcome.

Given that weekday evenings are almost universally more popular than Sundays, why do most clubs insist on still holding their more prestigious events on Sundays? Do any clubs hold one off trophy races on a Weds night, or is it just one long evening series?

This morning I sailed a rotomoulded boat with a missing top batten. But by heck it's fun, and I reckon I'm the fastest Hobie Wave sailor in the Caribbean right now! 20kts and 30 degrees is a winning combination...
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Open meetings offer a way for better sailors to get competition they can't get at club level

I found a club with a high standard where I can't win its excellent. so I no longer travel it's too much effort if you can't keep your boat on a driveway
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Travelling requires a lot of time and commitment.  It can be worth the effort, but over the past few years I've found I often returned home disappointed and I'd felt I would have been better off using that day to go to a better location (better forecast) for some windsurfing.  Windguru has undoubtedly had some ill-effects on organised sailing, but conversely internet forecasting and information sharing has made the lush green grass very accessible for nomadic sailing.  

The reason I haven't taken the plunge on the D-Zero (which is a lovely boat and meets my desires in so many respects) is simple - I don't want to travel around to get the best out it.  And at the moment there isn't a fleet, or even a mini fleet, anywhere near me. 

I'm not sure how this helps the point raised by the OP.... I can't see myself choosing to particularly go to a different format event over another.  I know I wouldn't bother travelling to a handicap event again.  That really is a complete waste of time.  I do think shared events are good though- especially where classes have some natural affinity- collaborate not compete would be my recommendation.  


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Originally posted by salmon80

Open meetings offer a way for better sailors to get competition they can't get at club level

I found a club with a high standard where I can't win its excellent. so I no longer travel it's too much effort if you can't keep your boat on a driveway

I am a member at a club that definitely satisfies my competitive edge even if I do only get to handicap race. There are currently 4 other boats of the same class at the club and my first aim is to always beat them. If the spreadsheet says I did ok as well then that is a bonus.

As for travelling, I have travelled more with the D-Zero than I have in any other class I have sailed. The reasons are that it is a great fleet and is growing nicely with a good bunch of regular travellers and new faces appearing all the time.
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