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Rupert
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Topic: 3 boats length Posted: 30 Jan 16 at 3:27pm |
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The 20 footer has to give room to both 70 footers if the overlap is gained in time, as the 2nd 70 footer is overlapped, and therefore has rights, even though not in the zone. No different to 3 20 footers, except on a practical level for the poor b**tard in the 20 footer. That the 2nd 70 footer already had rights on the 1st one doesn't make a difference, as far as I can see, whether the 20 footer is overlapped or not. Either both or neither have rights.
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andymck
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 16 at 6:50pm | |
What if at 210 feet no one is overlapped. But by 60 feet they are all overlapped.
Does the new zone reset rule 18? Or are there in fact still 2 hypothetical zones? |
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 16 at 7:08pm | |
The zone operates between any two boats, So there is a zone for the 20 footer and the 70 footer, and a zone for the two 70 footers.
Seems to me that an overlap that changed between 210 and 60 feet would most most likely fall foul of the last point of certainty rule anyway. |
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Rupert
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 16 at 7:34pm | |
The 2nd 70 footer would have rights as overlapped boat when the 1st 70 footer gains the overlap, just as 3 boats the same length would work. |
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Presuming Ed
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 16 at 9:31pm | |
Has anybody actually read the Q&A?
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Brass
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 16 at 10:15pm | |
There is no reason why 'The rule must be the same as for finishing'. Rule 18 and the Definition of Finish are absolutely different.
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jan 16 at 11:20pm | |
I got a opinion on retractable bowsprits normal position and overlaps from the RYA a few years ago when it was a bit more of a live issue.
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fudheid
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 16 at 1:28pm | |
this happened at a classic reggata last year we sailed a tumalare (smallest boat in the fleet) and at the leeward mark the largest and quickest barged the mark after we clearly stated they had no water.. we were at inside our 3 boat length, but the team of pro sailors shouted us down and with boats of significant value they don't get too close.
They helicoptered off before we could have a friendly chat in the bar.....so they didn't get any friendly advice from the victors
Moral of the story is that in boats of vastly differing lengths (i think the difference we had was 40ft) and vastly different speeds, it is very hard to distinguish a boat at 60ft when they hit their 3 boat zone). |
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