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Albacore?
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Originally posted by Woodburner

Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by Woodburner

trust me a Wayfarer is a ticket to the planet Boredom.
Agreed, the Wayfarer is not the most thrilling boat to sail, but it is nice (and in practice as fast as your Solution).  
With a handicap of 1112?

No Solutions up here, but we have a lot of experience of many other classes racing against Wayfarers, and i'd say 1080 would be a fair PY for the latest versions, so yes, 1112 is pretty favourable, especially in non-trapezing weather or else a total blow.  But equally we have moss-laden old hulks of Wayfarers that take up to four minutes to cross the start line, and they do wonders for the PY returns!
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Originally posted by NickM

Albacore?


Just sailed my Albacore in the Wednesday series with just under 200kgs on board. Upwind we were on the pace, but a bit slow off the wind. The net result was respectable, so can recommend it as well.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote patj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 15 at 6:58am
Sailed our Albacore in the Tuesday series planing in a strong gusty wind and came off the water with happy grins. Fastest boat on the lake, doing 4 minute laps when norm is about 9 minutes! Race Officer ran out of lap columns on the recording sheet

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4 minute laps?!

Wayfarer is a PY bandit of the highest order in many conditions, but such talk is frowned upon by the thought police on here.
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Originally posted by Peaky

Wayfarer is a PY bandit of the highest order in many conditions, but such talk is frowned upon by the thought police on here.

Maybe because once the wind is such that trapeze boats get going on the wire/planing, even the fastest the Wayfarer becomes mere fodder until survival conditions are reached. It's just a question of averages, and at present a modern Wayfarer can win a tad too often or by too much in the lighter stuff. But every dog has its day, unless it's a high-wind hiking boat like an L2k or Tasar, in which case it's stuffed by the Wayfarer in F.2-3 and by trapeze boats thereabove.
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It's hard not to be partisan when talking about boats. I think you are very heavy for a 2000 but if that's what they sail at the club, stick with it, especially if you're happy not to be at the front of the fleet. 

If you want something that carries more weight then look around  the club and see what others do, that should be your priority. Hopefully they will have either a few Wayfarers, or Kestrels or Albacores. Wayfarers can be had with an asymmetric (not sure what that does to the handicap), Kestrels use a conventional spinnaker and Albacores don't use a spinnaker. Whatever you get it needs to be longer than 14 foot.

I must warn you that a RS400 is a very athletic boat - I'd rather have a trapeze boat,if I were going for that sort of performance.
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Don't be afraid to take a look at a Hartleys Kestrel they take weight and are really well sorted and are great fun to sail and loads lighter than a Wayfarer, with plenty for both of you to do. Not much point getting a boat with no kite as that is what is making the 2000 interesting 'cause it certainly aint the speed with nearly 200kg in it. 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote sawman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 15 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by Dark Harris

Don't be afraid to take a look at a Hartleys Kestrel they take weight and are really well sorted and are great fun to sail and loads lighter than a Wayfarer, with plenty for both of you to do. Not much point getting a boat with no kite as that is what is making the 2000 interesting 'cause it certainly aint the speed with nearly 200kg in it. 

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Originally posted by Peaky

4 minute laps?!

Wayfarer is a PY bandit of the highest order in many conditions, but such talk is frowned upon by the thought police on here.
 
What Pat doesnt tell you is its a tree lined pudle with only about twenty acres of sailable water
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