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    Posted: 30 Jul 15 at 3:53pm
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Have just started sailing the club's 2000 with a fellow club member.  We are fairly large team Smile Smile well I am 15st and I recon he is a wee bit heavier. We do not take things too seriously but we started off being last across the line a few weeks ago and are now starting to move up the fleet. 
We feel that we may have to buy a boat rather than constantly use the club's one. 

The club sailing is an inland loch and the races are approx 45 -60mins long and 2 or 3 laps.  We are not interested just now in travelling to other events but if the beer is right we may be persuaded..

Is the 2000 right or are we too heavy for the boat?

Any boats with trapeeses are out Smile Smile

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RS400 seems like the obvious alternative if you want something a little more sprightly and better for weight carrying, but if you guys are happy and enjoy the 2000, then frankly a little extra pie won't make that much difference.

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I'd say 30-odd stone in a 2000 is way over the top, especially given their propensity for dragging the transom even with 20-odd stone crews unless they sit uncomfortably far forward.  The sail area is small, so that the extra righting moment offered by your weight will be largely unused.

How about a nice Hartley Wayfarer - Wayfarers seem to carry weight very well, judging by the Nats winners over the years.  If you want trapezes, asymmetrics etc, then the Alto is currently serving the 'larger gentlemen' down our way very well.
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RS 400 looks good

Wayfarer too heavy to drag around

Ref 2000 that might explain why the water keeps in coming in the transom Smile Smile

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Flying Fifteen carries weight well. Competitive 25 year old boats can be picked up for around 2500 and there is a good circuit in Scotland if you do decide to travel.
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If you like the 2000 style, but find it too small, then a Stratos would be possible, but maybe too heavy. Trouble is, big means heavy unless hitech and expensive. 400 would be good, I'd say, too.
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Yes too heavy for a 2000 to compete on the circuit.  To have fun club racing - it can work.  You will have a problem with water in through the self drainers unless you sit right forward.  But it's not uncomfortable to do so....get a longer tiller extension.  Also replace the flimsy flaps on the bailers with perspex.  makes a big difference.

400 will bear weight better - but it's also much more challenging to sail as opposed to race.
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Originally posted by sargesail

 You will have a problem with water in through the self drainers unless you sit right forward.  But it's not uncomfortable to do so....get a longer tiller extension. 
Maybe I should have said inconvenient rather than uncomfortable.  Moving forward of the mainsheet bridle then aft again every tack is a distraction I could do without as a helmsman (an aft bridle would be a huge improvement), and I can't imagine too many occasions when the thwart would be the right place for the crew to sit (although they all do at our club, dragging the transom accordingly).
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Originally posted by sargesail

 You will have a problem with water in through the self drainers unless you sit right forward.  But it's not uncomfortable to do so....get a longer tiller extension. 
Maybe I should have said inconvenient rather than uncomfortable.  Moving forward of the mainsheet bridle then aft again every tack is a distraction I could do without as a helmsman (an aft bridle would be a huge improvement), and I can't imagine too many occasions when the thwart would be the right place for the crew to sit (although they all do at our club, dragging the transom accordingly).

Thwarts are for bracing boats laterally and mounting controls not for sitting on!  I can't think of any boat where sitting on the thwart is actually a viable option if you want to go fast.  And same deal with working round a mainsheet (and thwart) every tack in conditions where both helm and crew are not sitting out.
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