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iGRF
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Topic: Yet another which boats question Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 11:08am |
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Another vote for the Atlo, it'll be exciting , with lots of potential to learn more stuff, self tacking jib makes it eaier for the crew and he can focus on learning to get his great bulk out on that wire whilst you while away the time with a nice coffee and the sunday times as you leisurely scream around the course.
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kneewrecker
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 11:21am | |
but it'll depreciate like a stone as there's no pockets of activity outside of one club in Kent. Far better to protect oneself with an established class- of which there are plenty to choose from.... Wayfarer, RS400, L2k, 505, flying 15, Bosun ... but I think one requirement was no trapeze, which rules out the Alto along with the 505.
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Woodburner
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 12:07pm | |
Don't listen to old guard disillusioned dinghyists stuck in their fifties time warp, 'oh don't buy that it needs a class to be fun' check all the copy about class racing dying, buy something you will enjoy and trust me a Wayfarer is a ticket to the planet Boredom.
RS 400 is not a bad boat, but it's a 'sitonthesideandyawn' hiker which you need to be a bit fit to deal with the pain that hiking inevitably induces particularly if you're doing it 'right'. So, if you can find one, the Alto, which is a modern boat, hardly any of these monkeys have even set eyes on never mind sailed, it would enhance your enjoyment over that laser 2000 slugboat by a factor of 10, it'll also put you a lot nearer the front of the fleet, they'll hammer you on handicap, but who cares?Everyone watching will have seen you finishing ahead of the pack and that is all that counts at the end of the day let them go into a huddle and work out which one of them won as they're packing their boat up still and you're on your second pint.
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kneewrecker
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 12:22pm | |
erm, which bit of no trapeze didn't you get Woodburner?
If you can't get the basics right, why should anyone listen to your wisdom of the more complex issues like successful classes, resale values and decent class racing (or at least a chance someone else might have the same type of boat to have a tussle against and compare your progress). There's a reason the RS400 is so popular and there's a damn good reason why something like the Alto is a complete dead-duck. An older Merlin Rocket is the other option, but the 400 is arguably more transferable from the L2000 as it's also an asymmetric spinnaker.
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Medway Maniac
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 1:32pm | |
Agreed, the Wayfarer is not the most thrilling boat to sail, but it is nice (and in practice as fast as your Solution). Actually, have you ever sailed a modern, i.e. Hartley Wayfarer, or are you just speaking from prejudice as usual?
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Woodburner
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 2:08pm | |
Not sailed a 'modern' (is that an oxymoron) one but frequently help to launch and recover our resident eccentric often Norfolk bound Wayfarer pilot.
As to the OP, they need to consider trapezing, all this sitting on the side is damaging to your health
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Woodburner
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 2:26pm | |
With a handicap of 1112? And they're calling me a Bandit with 1090 and they're both the same speed you say? Have you got Solutions over there then? I'm having very mixed results with mine, can't say the 1090 is especially favorable, I took another hammering in it last night thanks to sailing into a black hole, there's no coming back if you do drop behind, you can hold average Lasers off in it, but I've yet to beat the really good guy, then again he only shows up when the winds really cooking.
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kneewrecker
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 2:31pm | |
funny that
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Woodburner
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 2:33pm | |
The difference is, I'm not going to give up until I have, before I decide I'm one of lifes forever losers and buy a Starboard...
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Pierre
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 Jul 15 at 2:34pm | |
Osprey
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