Penalties

   I agree. USA changed the rules to put themselves in the LV Series so that they would have an even greater advantage over the challengers.As for the 'pure' sailing, I couldn't agree more. A race of yacht and team abilities is what it should be about.

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Sam S Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 04 Jun 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam S Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Penalties Posted: 05 Jun 17 at 5:01pm
	I agree. USA changed the rules to put themselves in the LV Series so that they would have an even greater advantage over the challengers. As for the 'pure' sailing, I couldn't agree more. A race of yacht and team abilities is what it should be about.
	Sam

davidyacht Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidyacht Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jun 17 at 11:36am
	When watching this, one has to consider that the America's Cup has always been rigged to the Defender's advantage, so that is part of the deal; however IMO it would be a better event if ... The Defender was not in the LV series, that is just daft, as is the point carried over into the final; That the winner of the LV raced 4th place, and 2nd raced 3rd; this would have added more edge to the 1st round; Penalties were a bit more severe, in some conditions the two boat slow down penalty has very little impact; My guess is that next time around teams will have worked out less power hungry systems, but I would prefer to see a contest based on pure sailing rather than how much hydraulic pressure is left in the tank.
	Happily living in the past

jeffers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeffers Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Jun 17 at 9:22am
	Using the rules to your advantage. Has always been part of the game.
	Paul ---------------------- D-Zero GBR 74

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6644	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 17 at 10:12pm
	Match racing has traditionally always had a large amount of screwing up the other guy about it though. Indeed the traditionalists whinge there isn't nearly enough of it with the multihulls.

Sam S Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 04 Jun 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sam S Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 04 Jun 17 at 9:16pm
	Dirty Tactics! I have been watching the America's Cup races. I understand the need for the 'Port - Starboard' rule for give-way, but when it is used to stiffle the other boats chances, it makes no sense. If it was frowned upon or not allowed to be used for 'dirty tactics' the races would be much more about 'The Boat' and 'The Team', which I believe should be the main intent of the America's Cup races. Not a drag race, but a skillfull yacht race without the need to screw up the other teams race by taking the port - starboard rule and turning it into a weapon. My analogy is like a soccer game where tripping is allowed. (The players would spend more time on the ground than playing skillfully)
	Sam

kyler Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 26 Jul 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote kyler Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jul 15 at 2:05pm
	Thanks very much!

RoundTheBow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 24 Nov 11 Location: Southampton Online Status: Offline Posts: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote RoundTheBow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 30 Jul 15 at 7:52am
	Here it is on the BBC, for about 24 days only I think: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0643y94/sailing-americas-cup

kyler Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 26 Jul 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote kyler Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 29 Jul 15 at 3:24am
	Being from the states, and a water state (Michigan), I'm amazed at the lack of interest in sailing these days. If the ACWS generates new interest in the sport, I'm all for it, regardless who's footing the bill. Sadly, it's only the small boat classes that don't require a massive investment to sail and race. I was an avid windsurfer in my younger days. Nothing like it for being in touch with the elements.

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 15 at 6:52pm
	I guess so. I'll have to see if any of the people I teach this summer have heard of it.
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NickM Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 328	Post Options Post Reply Quote NickM Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Jul 15 at 6:04pm
	I dunno Rupert. It may be a freak show like other elite sports but at least it is getting some air time on major TV channels and thousands of non sailors turned up on Southsea beach to watch. That's more than can be said for series like the Extreme 40s etc. And Ainsle is (almost) a household name. I would like to think that somewhere there are a few dozen kids and maybe older non-sailors watching who had never seen a foiling moth or big cat before and are now enthused to give sailing a go. We fill enough threads here forecasting the death of dinghy sailing. This coverage has to be good news.