Back on the Lake.

just for GRF's benefit

1st miracle
2nd buzz
3rd miracle
4th solo
5th solo

the gap between 1st and 2nd was 2 seconds on corrected and between 1st and 3rd was 7 seconds on corrected

Clearly the Buzz is a bandit as well.

No, they're half decent jocks the pair of them, doesn't matter what they sail they'll be at the front getting in the way and disturbing the karma of the righteous.

There are a lot of good sailors down the lake, that's why I like it, it's really tight racing, I learn loads down there, but the day will yet dawn.....

Edited by iGRF - 01 Dec 14 at 6:49pm

We have had the discussion on Miracles a few times. The top of the fleet is indeed very competitive and contains many good sailors but the average miracle sailor is clearly not in the same league as the guys at the top of the nationals fleet.
Interestingly our resident Miracle sailors have always performed well and it doesn't get much more tidal than our club, so I'm pretty happy that they behave well in tide and waves. Indeed our top Miracle was often holding the 200s around the course, but having now got a 200 themselves are now in the pack!
In the past Miracles were slower upwind than either Fireflies or Graduates but recovered their losses with the kite up. With the move to in-board sheeting on the jib, they are as quick as a Firefly upwind and yet their handicap has gone the other way.
It's obvious what's happening and makes you think back to the topic about where in the data PYs should come from. In my opinion it's a good argument for using something approaching the faster end of the distribution.

Originally posted by GybeFunny Originally posted by iGRF y'all do take your handicaps very seriously  This from the guy who cancelled an order on a boat when he found out that a predicted handicap wasnt favourable........

Exactly.

So seriously are they taken, we (consumers) now base our purchasing decisions firmly on that, why not? Why dump a perfectly acceptable boat that I enjoy sailing for another one that although I might equally enjoy sailing, it is going to put me at even more of a disadvantage and lighten my wallet by five grand for the privilege ? Nice it might be but it's not five grand nicer, given it lost one of its USP's and I'm not even following the same trend that lead to lots of Phantoms being purchased, 1040-50 wasn't that much of a benefit given it has a smaller sail and is shorter than my current ride and with less righting moment.
By the time it settles and my guess is it'll be 1030-1035 come March, there will be new motorways built and another winter will have flown and it is all Simon Loveseys fault I have decided, he is my new hate figure, denying me a new boat the b**tard.