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Originally posted by maxibuddah



Igrf your pie is safe


My pie? I share my pie, it's your pie folk might want to get their hands on..

All that sailing knowledge baked in a pie..
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JohnJack Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by Rupert

Originally posted by maxibuddah

It's just easier to sail single-handed.

No commitment. No hassle with your crew or helm.

A more selfish world when you can do what you want whenever you want and how you want without the need to think of someone else


This is certainly true, but maybe a little sad. Mind you, I now cart an extra boat and rupertson around to events - more complex than sailing a doublehander together. But fewer arguments!

Equivelent 1 person/2 person boats...

Solo/Ent, as you say. Should have been Laser/Laser 2 but "they" cocked it up. Oppie/Cadet. Contender/Flying Dutchman. Musto Skiff/49er. RS700/RS800.

Boats that should have had an equivelent (unless I've missed it)...

Fireball. Firefly (why no Fairey Marine singlehander? Yes, they made Finns, but not what I mean) GP14 (there must be/have been a boat in this niche, surely?)


Having sailed at mainly clubs with predominantly 'older' classes. GP's Ents, Grads, N14 etc etc All of these boats, with a bit of skill could be singlehanded if in a pinch for a crew. Could you single hand an RS400, Fireball etc etc?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 4:06pm
Not saying they can't - more wondering what the genuline singlehanded version is. Pointless exercise, I admit.

Seen the singlehanded by a fairly beefy chap quite often, and the Fireball is pretty easy. Makes a nice trap singlehander, actually.


Edited by Rupert - 13 Oct 14 at 4:07pm
Firefly 2324, Lightning 130, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446
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I was part of a double handed outfit for many years. Our circumstances were much the same, lots of kids etc. We had great fun for years as well as spectacular arguments. The good thing was, (good?) he made me sail when I did not feel inclined and vice versa.  Eventually we followed separate paths, but I miss it. 
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Interesting seeing the singlehander/doublehander pairings.

As a heavyweight I know that the Phantom, Finn and maybe OK are suitable, but I can think of no double hander for heavyweight helms apart from the Albacore. So Finn/Albacore?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 6:43pm
Wayfarers, gp14 and 505 all suit the larger gent IMO, FD crew, Javelin, Merlins, i14.....
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And as I'm finding out so does the X1 in any conditions
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maybe but not as the helm normally. I'd love to sail a two person boat, but there aren't many that will take my weight as the helm.

What is the Kestrel like for carrying weight? They seem pretty big with plenty of sail and are fast. We have a few at our club and they look as though they should be ok


Edited by maxibuddah - 13 Oct 14 at 7:32pm
Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AlanH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 7:51pm
Maxi- try an Osprey, they really carry weight. Others include FF, Wayfarer.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ChrisI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct 14 at 9:07pm
Maxi,

The X1 in fact prefers the helm (90kg plus) to be heavier than the crew - you must try a sail (.... I think you missed doing so at the FOM?).

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