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    Posted: 07 Oct 19 at 9:26pm
One thought - on a wooden hull, look for 4 floor battens. Original design had 2, one on each side. After some time it was apparent that this wasn't quite strong enough! (Foot through the floor).
The other feature is that the cockpit well has all 4 buoyancy tanks draining into it. It's difficult to drain it, so check carefully for water damage.
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Mirror dinghies have lots of buoyancy - recovering from a capsize is easy enough, but if you're in the water it's a long way up. Fit fighting lines which you can use to pull yourself a k in!

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Like many of my generation who started to sail back in the 60s/70s I started in a Mirror. What a great, flexible little boat. 50 years on I still don't think there is a better boat to put on the roof of a car and take on holiday or to learn in. As others have said, most of the top racers sail the latest FRP Winder boats. and it seems to have become a young persons boat at the the top level. Having said that. the Mirror also seems to have become the de facto boat for most of our older members to sail at my club. So if you were to look at dinghy classes with the widest active age range of sailors I think the Mirror would be well up the list. I personally don't think centre mainsheets suit the boat but each to their own. Nice boats are out there but can be hard to find, as others have said there are a lot of tatty poorly maintained Mirrors in the back of boat parks. But I think it's worth a bit of effort to try and find a decent one, if you keep it maintained well you won't lose any money on it.
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The Mirror is an incredibly versatile boat and great for beginners. I am 18 stone and 5ft 11in and can sail it competitively at my club single handed recently winning a pursuit series. It can be used with 1, 2 or 3 sails. You can row it or put an outboard on it!
There is big price difference between the wooden and FRP/GRP Mirrors.
The top helms are now mostly racing the new Winder FRP Mirrors.
You have to ensure the wooden boats are well protected and checked regularly if left outside in the Winter. I don't agree about a centre mainsheet being better. I have used both and as a single handed sailor much prefer the aft mainsheet which gives you more mobility to balance the boat in lighter winds. It will cost about 300 to fit out a self launching spinnaker pole so go for a boat with it already fitted!
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Looking at the usual weights of dinghy classes, I see there are not many that are significantly lighter than a Mirror (because it is short I suppose).

A lighter boat will be nicer to pull up the slipway, all on your own. Older boats will have gained weight though. And some trailers/trollies are heavier than others!

I've seen several people recommend the Mirror for cruising, so it could well be a good idea.
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a few years ago I spent several weeks looking for a reasonable condition but cheap mirror to teach the kids to sail. The good ones seem to sell like hot cakes and the rest were overpriced wrecks. I ended up getting a Miracle, which turned out to be a much better all around proposition
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Originally posted by Lukepiewalker

I would counsel against a centre main, as it precludes sliding across on the thwart.


Flip side is with the centre mainsheet you can take the jib sheet in your hand throughout the whole of the tack and pull it in as you cross the boat.

But yes the aft main does give more room in the boat if that is what is wanted. Also I guess it will allow you to have a longer tiller extension if sailing solo and you need to get "up front". But nothing is that far away in a Mirror anyway.

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Hi I have had a good look inside it has all been re varnished,checked the best I could all looks ok, and the hull has been completely rubbed down and re painted,trying to buy it for 350,the road trailer looks ok too,I will see how thing turn out with the seller,there are quite a few about,but how good they are mains to be seen.
Thanks for all the info it is a great help to me.I let you know how I get on.
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Places to look for rot in a wooden Mirror: inside the cuddy bit under the foredeck, up against the front bulkhead (so betwen the centreboard case and the plywood. Round the case. Under the stringers (the strips of wood in the bottom of the boat). At the back of the cockpit, at the aft bulkhead. Along the edges of the plywood where they are exposed on the gunwales, especially towards the stern. Along the back edge of the tank where it meets the transom - same at the bows. Round the rudder fixings, especially the bottom one.
If you poke areas and they seem soft, best to walk away. There are so many out there, it isn't worth buying a project unless the aim is the boat work, not the sailing!

I too like aft main on a Mirror, as it makes the boat more comfortable. However, it does depend upon what you learned in, at least partly. Doesn't take much to get used to taking an aft main boat, mind.
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I would counsel against a centre main, as it precludes sliding across on the thwart.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote about  a boat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 14 at 9:44am
I'm six foot tall and about 90-95kgs. I sail one with my youngster - sometimes three up. You will not have any problem with the boom. At 375 you will not loose out but will want to make sure the hull is sound. you can pick up the Bell plastic boats quite cheaply when they come up but these are very heavy and probably start around 600. If you go for wooden make sure it is not painted inside as this can hide rot. If you go for one try and get a center mainsheet as this will make it a far better boat to sail. You can get an up grade kit but this with the epoxy will probably set you back around 250.

Try to think about what you will be using for next year. You can add spinnaker and better rig set ups as you go along but this is expensive. If you think you will want a flyaway pole, spinnaker, lines led to the thrawt then it will be cheaper buying a boat already set up with these rather than upgrading a cheap basic boat.

Do not be put of my a boat that is "raced rigged". All what this means is the rig and rigging will work and run better and more efficiently making the boat nicer and easier to sail - some thing that a beginner will appreciate.
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