Grafham D-Zero Demo Day

Originally posted by Null You will love it mate, its such a fantastic event.  I will be out in the pink sail numbered Phantom, massively over powered i should imagine and wishing i had a kite to help pay for all the handwork uphill!

If it ends up anywhere near 1010 I'll cancel simple as that, fast it may be, but it's not faster than the EPS off wind and I can't sail that to 1024 The only reason I was looking at it was that it's slower than the EPS with a smaller sail and less potential leverage and about the same waterline length.

Just the same as the Icon is a no go due to the ludicrous rating. (20 pts faster than a Contender on Open water I'd like to see the world finest Olympic team trying to stick that one on even an average club Contender sailor.)

They need sueing, seriously someone has to sort these idiots out.

Graeme if the ICON PY is so bad, how come they took 1st & 3rd in the handicap fleet at the PODD?

Get over it, and just enjoy sailing!!!!

Graeme, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the Great Lakes handicap.  To be honest I think they have done the right thing.  There is little (no) data for them to py off, so if they guessed at 1050 and a zero or aero walked an event there would be uproar.  Better play safe then sorry, the right thing to do is just sail your boat.  The py will come out in the was and will be reflected on real life data, but as with any new class you will have to put up with the perils of en py for a while. Motives the numbers of boat that have sold there should be enough data to get an en for the start of the next season.

Originally posted by dogslife The secret to success seems to be to just chose the "bandit class" of the moment and if you can keep it upright you stand chance of being in the prizes no matter how inept you might otherwise be.

I challenge you to produce your club's main handicap series with the results worked out for both the current handicaps and what you think they should be.