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Medway Maniac
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Topic: New Dinghy but what. Help. Posted: 29 May 14 at 11:59pm |
Interesting comparison, the 420 & 3000. The 420 feels initially less stable than the 3k, but it will hang on longer before capsizing. Thus I capsized my 420 once in three years, and when I got a Laser 2 (=3k) I thought it was much more stable, yet I capsized appreciably more often!
I’d say the 400 is more akin to the 420 than the 3k, in that it will hang on when it heels, but because of its size it is a less fidgety than the 420. |
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MerlinMags
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 14 at 8:29am |
Beware teaching your own spouse/children to sail. Especially not in a race. It can all backfire and they end up hating it if you so much as raise your voice above a whisper. There must not be a single moment of urgency!
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Medway Maniac
Really should get out more Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 14 at 9:17am |
Agree with that 100% |
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canoeslicer
Newbie Joined: 27 May 14 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 14 at 9:36am |
Agree with that to.
Not teaching the little one the instructors in the club are, as he is just like me at that age will listen to them but argue with me. |
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It's all sh*ts and giggles until someone giggles and sh*ts.
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canoeslicer
Newbie Joined: 27 May 14 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 14 at 9:40am |
Thought it maybe more like the 420 as they both have a more rounded hull than say a 3000.
Would people class the rs400 as more or less stable than the 420? |
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It's all sh*ts and giggles until someone giggles and sh*ts.
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Wee Man
Far too distracted from work Joined: 24 Aug 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 214 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 14 at 10:26am |
I race an F18 and have a 420 to race / fun sail with family or friends. I find the 420 to be very stable and forgiving but a bit sluggish in light wind, it's great fun when it picks up a bit. With the trapeze and kite it offers plenty to keep crew occupied and lots of learning.
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Medway Maniac
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 14 at 10:27am |
Depends what you have in mind by stable. As I recall, the 400 feels slower to react in heeling (because of its mass?) but it is a lot more powerful, so it's more a case of steering for balance whereas a 420 you can bully with body movement.
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canoeslicer
Newbie Joined: 27 May 14 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 May 14 at 6:25pm |
That sounds like what I was expecting the larger mass is harder to start moving in this case healing and then more effort is required to arrest that movement.
I learnt quite early on about steering for balance I moved into a laser radial out of an opi due to my hight but I was not heavy enough and had to really work the steering to stay upright. |
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winging it
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 31 May 14 at 7:31pm |
At the risk of stating the obvious and spoiling the testosterone feeding frenzy, why not invest in some lessons for your wife using a club or centre's training boat? Once she has been taught to sail by someone else (very much your preferred option unless you know a good divorce lawyer) BOTH of you will be much better placed to choose a boat you both like.
The 2000 is a great boat with a fantastic race circuit, but can seem a tad sedate after a while. It would also be a great trainer boat for an RS400 and there's a healthy second hand market. 2000 this year, 400 next year? Edited by winging it - 31 May 14 at 7:38pm |
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the same, but different...
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canoeslicer
Newbie Joined: 27 May 14 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 9:36am |
That was offer but was declined she only has an interest in being able to blast round the bay occasionally and every now and again the little one come to.
Thank you for assuming that I don't have her enjoyment at heart and that my marriage isn't strong enough for me to teach her bits and pieces. All I can say is I feel sorry that yours is not. |
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