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windnwater
Newbie Joined: 11 Mar 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Topic: Technique tips for Trimming my Hobie 16 Posted: 12 Mar 14 at 3:55pm |
I sail a hobie 16 coastally but get overtaken constantly by seemingly better trimmed boats. We're not racing as such just freesailing. I feel like I have a very bouncy ride the whole time even in small chop :( I'm pretty novice but can sail well it's just reaching!
Anyone help with boat setup or my error in technique? |
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craiggo
Really should get out more Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 12 Mar 14 at 8:26pm |
Its difficult to say without seeing pictures, but I suspect a) you're to far back in the boat and b) you are probably pinching too much in the small gusts. You need to be very sensitive on the helm and try to keep the boat moving smoothly even if that means letting the hull lift a bit.
If you let the sails stall out the rather floppy rig on the 16 can really shake around and it has a tendancy to wash off boat speed, so keep enough power in the rig to keep it loaded. |
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ASok
Really should get out more Joined: 26 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 739 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 14 at 12:20pm |
That's the first mistake I made when I moved into cats. Weight too far back and pinching the whole time. Sailing it free will pay off also make sure the fore and aft trim is level. You can be pretty far forward, so need to hang off the rear beam - especially when going up wind
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jaydub
Far too distracted from work Joined: 06 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 13 Mar 14 at 12:58pm |
Keep the leeward hull pressed in to the water as much as possible. Much better to sail a bit freer to achieve this as the hull bites into the water and reduces the leeway.
Sail downwind with the tell tales streaming at 90 degrees.
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windnwater
Newbie Joined: 11 Mar 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Mar 14 at 10:33am |
Hey Guys,
Thank you for the replies. I'm pretty sure I am too far back then reading your comments. When reaching I am back as far as possible, mainly whimping about pitch poling! I'll make sure I go further forward next time i'm out. Thanks! |
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catmandoo
Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 545 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 14 Mar 14 at 7:31pm |
Cant understand why folks ask monohull dominated forums how to sail cats or even forget your best resource google it ! 10 secs of research found me :http://www.hobieclass.com/site/hobie/ihca/downloads/tuning/tuning/tuning_16.pdf
Hobie 16 sailing is peculiar to them as they are soooooo different to any other cat in most respects , advice above from ex world champ , must be worth a read
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ASok
Really should get out more Joined: 26 Sep 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 739 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 14 at 9:52am |
Way to put off a new poster.
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craiggo
Really should get out more Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 14 at 8:56pm |
It has always amazed me how some die hard Cat sailors see themselves as doing something totally different to the rest of us!
In the main, sailing is sailing. The techniques are much of a muchness regardless of what you sail. As for the Hobie 16 being so different from other cats, having sailed one a few times, I wouldn't say its particularly different to any other 16ft catamaran, sure it has a few nuances, but then thats no difference to a Laser and an RS300. The point about checking the class association is however totally valid. |
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catmandoo
Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 545 |
Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 14 at 10:29pm |
Having sailed and raced dinghies and cats from the age of nine , over 42 years !!! Im afraid to say my view is a tad biased to my experience , , hopefully the poster took my advice as intended, and got something usefull out of it and was not put off seeking help
Its a shame theres no uk cat forum .
Yes theres plenty of crossover between all aspects of sailing , one thing that suprised me was the similarity in some respects between cat racing and keelboat racing , in that racing tornadoes i would ask my crew to go down and check setting of jib , i would helm and trap as the heavier of us , in old single trap days , not something i would suggest in a hobie sixteen :) Apologies t' all Should all be sailing agin soon Ps you may not appreciate how diverse my sailing experience has been and still is , die hard cat sailor , nope ........ Die hard sailor , yup :) Edited by catmandoo - 17 Mar 14 at 10:31pm |
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