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    Posted: 12 Aug 20 at 3:01pm
TT donít tell anyone,  but in my limited experience of the man. He really isnít my cup of tea. 😔

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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 20 at 1:55pm
I'd heard Aeros had made a bit on an impression there - good stuff.  And the Laser fleet got everything right in ... except the choice of boat ;-) 

Glad both are building and the club is in very safe hands with Dave running it day-to-day.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote zeon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 20 at 1:27pm
I was only reading though the thread as my D zero itch has re surfaced again lol . 
It did make interesting reading and looking from 2020 its great to see both boats have managed to establish themselves.
Did make me laugh to myself to see over the 150 odd pages , I had changed my used name at least 4 times lol.
TT you will be pleased know the laser fleet at Draycote has gone from strength to strength since you left for sunnier shores but also there is also a growing number of Aeros too. Think they are up to about 20 now . 


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Post Options Post Options   Quote maxibuddah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 20 at 12:01pm
we've got the other way round, a streaker sailor is selling his to move to an Aero as we have a few very good ones at the club and he wants to try it before he's too old. 

You've got to love FB though on the advice posts, you know the ones where an 8 stone sailor asks for whats the best boat and then sit back waiting for the pile on where everyone says their own class. Finns, phantoms and contenders mentioned almost everytime even though highly unsuitable. Its fun. Other than that use it for local adverts and a bit of banter, but the fix is the quick responses and the notifications that most users crave for I guess. The forum takes a bit more work, apart from if you sign up for notifications of course, you've got to go looking for info.
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Two Aeros have turned up at our club, but one is almost never used, and the other got sold at the end of the season so that the owner could move back to a Streaker.
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Just been woken up with 14 emails saying somebody's posted here!  So I must have contributed previously?

Continuing off topic - I agree that forums are best in that you can segregate topics, search etc.  Biggest problem is they need someone to set it up, host & manage it.  

I only use FB for sailing related groups, & for that I think it's pretty good for immidiate discussions.  As said elsewhere, it's useless for searching & topics keep repeating.   I've only used the 'Bits for sale' group once - I posted a 'wanted' ad for something I knew nothing about & the responses & suggestions were brilliant.

On topic, Aeros seem to have won the battle at our club. Most of the top Laser sailors have migrated to something else, although not necessarily Aeros.  Indirectly it's probably helped classes like the Blaze - we've had a couple of ex Laser sailors get them as they no longer had any decent Laser competition but didn't want to fork out for an Aero.


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One of my kids told me I have an Instagram account and hundreds of followers. I guess it must have been opened on my behalf by Facebook or something like that. Never even logged on and certainly no idea who the 100s or followers are. Just shows its all an echo chamber. I have bought some stuff from FB ads but normally from local people who I kind of know from other sailing friends, but would probably not drive across the country to see something!
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I think many are losing interest in Facebook for all the reasons TT lists. 

I hardly ever post but log on most days as it helps to maintain connections with distant friends. 

I have an Insta account but so few of my friends do itís a bit pointless. 

Forums are better imho but the tumbleweed here would suggest that is a minority view. 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 20 at 10:17am
Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by turnturtle

I've genuinely got no idea on sales numbers for either...

In the PY table races list the Aero 7 is 8th with 5536 recorded, the D-Zero 12th with 2720, and the Aero 9 15th with 2607. All 3 Aeros combined would be 8848, enough to put the class 4th in the list a bit behind the Laser Radial (9947) but well ahead of the RS200 (5954).

I'd say the D-Zero has done well enough, but the Aero has been a spectacular success. I imagine that the determination of the Laser builder and CA to wage civil war hasn't done the alternatives any harm.

Clap well done Aeros then.  Esp if you consider any class racing at club level may not even hit those stats.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Aug 20 at 10:15am
Originally posted by iGRF

Buying and selling on 'that' facebook group is a farce, no protection, no comeback, facebook market place other than for local 'dross' is lethal. It had me driving up to the wilds of Essex with the cash to buy a bloody Contender only for a no show, waste of time and money. Facebook has lots of plus points for catch ups, banter, lost kit in watersports groups, keeping in touch with old friends and colleagues, but for buying and selling, five times more irritating than ebay with none of the security and don't even start me on the Chinese & US product con artists.

it's a free classifieds that's all .... caveat emptor.
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