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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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Just needs a set of foils
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Tom Kirkman ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 07 May 14 Location: North Carolina Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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I suppose that part of the fun of sailing is talking about various boats when you’re not actually out sailing. I happen to own a Weta. I also own the world’s fastest production sailboat (Hobie Trifoiler). It’s never occurred to me to pit one against the other or argue with myself or others about which one is a better boat. They’re different animals and comparisons between them or other boats is neither fair nor really possible. I suppose I could denigrate the Lasers, Radials, Contenders, F18's, A-Cats, etc., etc., by saying that the TriFoiler will easily blow any of them off the water in short order (provided I have at least 8 knots of wind!). But that’s not my game. Every boat has its virtues, in my opinion. The Weta has never been marketed as the “Fastest Boat On The Water.” At least not by Weta Marine. It has been marketed as “Fast, Fun, Easy” and that’s hard to argue with. Fast: This is relative term. For a 14 foot boat, the Weta is indeed fast. 14 to 15 MPH is not hard to do. 17 to 18 is possible in the right conditions. It accelerates in an instant. It certainly “feels” fast. Fun: Weta sailors generally have big, big smiles on their faces. Is this not the real object of sailing in this day and age - to have fun? If so then this claim is also true. Easy: Okay, it’s fairly quick and easy to set up. A fit person can easily do it by themselves. It’s relatively easy to sail although it can be capsized a bit easier than some would have you believe if you’re not quick on the mainsheet and tiller in strong winds. I wouldn’t send a kid or a physically challenged person out in the Weta when the wind is much above 15 knots, unless perhaps I have run up the storm main, or removed the jib. But there is a strong argument to be made that it is indeed easy. Again, this is a relative term. This I know - I have taken out cat sailors, laser sailors, mono hull sailors and a host of others in my Weta. And they all come back with nothing but praise for the Weta. They like it because it's... Fun! Edited by Tom Kirkman - 08 May 14 at 11:04pm |
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catmandoo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 543 |
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There we have it
Weta a fun boat , op change title of thread and all happy . ps is your trifoiler faster than a production foiling moth ????? ![]() or a production flying phantom cat ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by catmandoo - 09 May 14 at 11:52am |
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Tom Kirkman ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 07 May 14 Location: North Carolina Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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Unless a foiling moth can top 40+ MPH then it's not even close. I have no idea how fast the Moth or the Foiling Cat can run, but I doubt either would be anywhere near as fast as the Trifoiler (although they might be just as fun!). Last time out I had mine at 38.2 MPH top speed for the day.
The TriFoiler Longshot, the original model, still holds the Class A world record at around 51 or 52 MPH. And the TriFoiler is highly maneuverable whereas something like the Vestas Sail Rocket is on perpetual port tack. Edited by Tom Kirkman - 09 May 14 at 12:37pm |
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catmandoo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 543 |
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that is rapid , good stuff , fast boat in fast boat thread , or should I say fun
![]() moths n phantoms a way off that so far wonder which quicker round a race course , but not the point . was thinking of a tupperware thing called a foiler with funny outrigged boards , apologies
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Longshot did just crack the 50mph (50.12), which was an astounding speed for a boat that could sail on both tacks. Astounding speed full stop, actually.
But then it was designed for the purpose of records, not of winning races, like the Moth, where early foiling and the ability to sail fast on all points of sailing are more important than top speed on a perfect reach. Different creatures, and I as I have sailed neither, I cannot comment on which is more "fun". Depends on how you get your kicks, really. For some, a Weta, or even a Foxer dinghy will be more fun than either. |
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Tom Kirkman ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 07 May 14 Location: North Carolina Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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The TriFoiler will turn on a dime and because the apparent wind is always forward, it really doesn't suffer on any particular point of sail. Under lighter wind conditions it is better and faster to jibe full around than to tack, as it's possible to come off the foils. Otherwise it's fast on all points of sail. It's not a one trick pony by any means.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXSgZCDVWOM With the ama fairings that Dan Ketterman made me, and which I think they offered as an option at the time, the TriFoiler will foil in about 8 MPH winds. 10 to 12 is a sure thing. At one of the local club small lake regattas, the commodore asked me how long it would take to bring the Trifoiler around the course one time. I said, "On the foils, about 45 seconds. Off the foils, about 30 minutes." It is terribly fun, but launching and retrieving it can be a pain in the rear sometimes and thus I don't find myself using it nearly as much as the Weta and some of my other boats. Foiling boats, some of them anyway, suffer a bit in the practicality department. |
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Pewit ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 14 Location: Sydney, Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 70 |
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Thought you'd like to know that Weta number 1000 has just been shipped.
Not bad for a boat conceived in a garage in New Zealand in 2004, made in China and now sold worldwide. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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A great landmark for any boat. And how many actually start at 1 and do all the numbers through to 1000 any more?
At 20 secs, you see the Weta overtake an Oppie - so proving the thread title! |
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Pewit ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 14 Location: Sydney, Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 70 |
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I'm just back from a 3-week road trip from Sydney to the Gold Coast with my Weta that finished early as my partner had an accident when we
were staying at Brunswick Heads. So we never quite made it but I did have some interesting sailing along the way:
This is winter sailing in Australia BTW. Wish you were here? And you don't have to worry about a rescue
boat since it can be easily righted if it does go over (I didn't - but I
did have a "moment" in the waves). Weta #325 Sydney |
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