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m_liddell
Really should get out more Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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Topic: 14 capsize recovery *solved* Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 4:32pm |
Just been out sailing in my 14 again after it being out of action for 3 months. Great fun but I'm still having major issues righting her after a capsize. I sail with my sister and our combined weight is around 21.5 stone so righting it is never going to be easy. The boat always lies with the hull upwind of the rig across the wind, when we try and right it the boat does not turn up into the wind at all making the fully batterned main power up a bit. Ditching the kicker doesn't help either. We tried swimming the bow into the wind but when we then tried to right it it started to bear away again. I'm going to try righting the the rig upwind of the hull and having my sister hand onto the trapeze handle next! Nothing else seems to work. I've never had any issues with righting RS800's or 29er's. Any advice guys? Edited by m_liddell |
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Steve Clark
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 5:45pm |
Jib sheet eased? Anoher possibility is that the tiller is not staying on center. SOmetimes the heavy double tiller extensions are enough move the tiller and rudder around, can cause the boat to beart away or tack on top of you as you are comming up. A good bungee to keep the helm centered often helps keep things normal while you fracas. SHC |
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Garry
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 7:04pm |
Some other suggestions:
Try hanging onto the centreboard as the boat rights and go under water with it for a few seconds, this should stabalise the righting. You could also try scoping your crew in as the boat rights so you have some weight that can balance the boat. The crew hanging onto the bow might also work combined with going under with the CB. Tie some floatation to the masthead and practice until you find something that works. Edited by Garry |
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Garry
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JimC
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 7:26pm |
If its really windy
This was written by well known Australian designer and sailor Frank Bethwaite, it applies to all two handed dinghies, not just the Tasar he mentions. I have permission to reproduce it on my club website so here should be OK.
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CurlyBen
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 8:03pm |
What about sinking the bow to get the boat head to wind, think that's part of capsize recovery on cats?
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jpbuzz591
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 9:24pm |
what about one of u holding the bow as it is righted so that it turns head to wind?
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Jp Indoe
Contender 518 Buzz591 Chew Valley Sailing club Bristol |
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ssailor
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 15 Oct 05 at 10:35pm |
Hey first of all do you have an aluminium mast? if you do then you will
find it very hard work, the older 14s with aly masts are a sod to right!
The technique you mention has been adopted by alot of us because the carbon mast boats will sit with the sails to windward - free all sheets, then one gets on the board and the other sits in the crewing position holding the (going to be) windward wire and the mainsheet - as the boat comes up u sheet on ever so slighty trapezing into the boat while the person on the centreboard hops in keeping their head low - that way you can both end up in the boat it looks cool and one of you can grab the helm! |
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m_liddell
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 05 at 11:39am |
The mast is carbon luckily. I'll give the mast to windward righting method a go and see what happens. The boat came with pretty thick elastic around the tiller but I'll replace it since it's in a bad state. I've put twin tillers on (2 rs600 extensions) which are failry heavy so this might also be an issue. A few other thinks to try here too, cheers guys. |
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les5269
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 05 at 7:25pm |
I own a laser 5000 and my helm is fairly light what we do is start righting the boat and as it comes up he hops in and i grab the trapeeze loop and use that to bring the boat up (it also helps you get back in too!) This seems to work for us .
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m_liddell
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Post Options Quote Reply Posted: 16 Oct 05 at 7:34pm |
Oops double post! Edited by m_liddell |
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